X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 865455 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:49:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j3BLn80W017204 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901c53ee0$4b64f0b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Washing Machine Was [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:49:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C53EBE.C41C8940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C53EBE.C41C8940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Jerry I'll file that away for future reference. Replacing the drive coupler = was easy, getting the !@#$% washing machine case back on it frame took = much longer. Then as I was just getting my tools put away the wife told = me it was leaking. Turns out there is a small 3/8" clear plastic tube I = had forgotten to connect - just push on not even any clamps. = Fortunately I could till the machine over on its side and reach it so = did not have to take the case off again.=20 I particularly like your approach to house hold problem fixing - I = wonder if it would work on my wife {:>) I think I'll postpone finding = out. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerry Hey=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Washing Machine Was [FlyRotary] Re: The = Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Ed, not that you need help but RepairClinic.com is a super site when = it comes to fixing appliances. They have a drill down feature that will = quickly identify the problem, provide guidance on the repair and sell = you the parts. Very quick. My method when something breaks is to give = this reference to my wife and very generously tell her she is welcome to = use my tools. Jerry On Monday, April 11, 2005, at 02:08 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: I don't know, Finn. I was under the impression that the seals (not = counting Tracy's seals) were fairly brittle and broke before they bent. =20 I have the engine back in the shop and was starting the tear down, = when the wife came down and informed me the washing machine wasn't = working AGGHGGG! Of course, the appliance makers now assume no one = does home repair so there is not so much as a parts exploded diagram. = But, managed to get it apart expecting to see belts - but nope - direct = drive. But, I do spot the problem there is a plastic coupler between = the motor and the gear box and it is clearly broken. Well, because of = no parts diagram have to search the inter net to find a diagram, locate = the part number and find a store that had one. But, great the store = will print me out a diagram of the system! Wife goes to get part while = I return to engine. Comes back with part, but because the lady I talked = to had gone to lunch the new lady didn't know which diagram to print out = ARRRGGG!=20 =20 Anyhow as I write this the wife is cleaning up the mess around the = washer and she has just called, so its back to putting the washer = backtogether and then maybe to the engine =20 Arrrrrrgggg! =20 Ed A ----- Original Message ----- From: Finn Lassen To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on = Sun & Fun{:<( Ed Anderson wrote: =20 It appears that Al's assessment may be correct that particularly = because of the apparent orientation of the electrode when I screw it = into the hole ending up such that the apex hit the curved back part = rather than the end pointed toward the center electrode. It appears the = apex seal did bounce over that curve part for a while and either the = apex seals finally gave way or the springs under them did. Perhaps Lynn = would know if its possible to break the springs while leaving the seal = intact. Could the seals be bent to the point they no longer can more freely = in the grooves? Finn ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C53EBE.C41C8940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Jerry
 
I'll file that away for future = reference. =20 Replacing the drive coupler was easy, getting the !@#$% washing machine case back on it = frame took=20 much longer.  Then as I was just getting my tools put away the wife = told me=20 it was leaking.  Turns out there is a small 3/8" clear plastic tube = I had=20 forgotten to connect - just push on not even any clamps.  = Fortunately I=20 could till the machine over on its side and reach it so did not have to = take the=20 case off again.
 
I particularly like your approach to = house hold=20 problem fixing - I wonder if it would work on my wife {:>)  I = think I'll=20 postpone finding out.
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerry=20 Hey
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 = 3:42=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Washing Machine=20 Was [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun = &=20 Fun{:<(

Ed, not that you need help but RepairClinic.com is a = super site=20 when it comes to fixing appliances. They have a drill down feature = that will=20 quickly identify the problem, provide guidance on the repair and sell = you the=20 parts. Very quick. My method when something breaks is to give this = reference=20 to my wife and very generously tell her she is welcome to use my = tools.=20 Jerry
On Monday, April 11, 2005, at 02:08 PM, Ed Anderson = wrote:

I=20 don't know, Finn.  I was under the impression that the seals = (not=20 counting Tracy's seals) were fairly brittle and broke before they = bent.
 
I=20 have the engine back in the shop and was starting the tear down, = when the=20 wife came down and informed me the washing machine wasn't working=20 AGGHGGG!   Of course, the appliance makers now assume no = one does=20 home repair so there is not so much as a parts exploded = diagram.  But,=20 managed to get it apart expecting to see belts - but nope - direct=20 drive.  But, I do spot the problem there is a plastic coupler = between=20 the motor and the gear box and it is clearly broken.  Well, = because of=20 no parts diagram have to search the inter net to find a diagram, = locate the=20 part number and find a store that had one.  But, great the = store will=20 print me out a diagram of the system!  Wife goes to get part = while I=20 return to engine.  Comes back with part, but because the lady I = talked=20 to had gone to lunch the new lady didn't know which diagram to print = out=20 = ARRRGGG! 
 
Anyhow=20 as I write this the wife is cleaning up the mess around the washer = and she=20 has just called, so its back to putting the washer backtogether and = then=20 maybe to the = engine
 
Arrrrrrgggg!
 
Ed=20 A

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: Finn Lassen
To:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: = Monday,=20 April 11, 2005 8:44 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The = Verdit! c=20 wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<(

Ed Anderson = wrote:=20  

It appears that = Al's=20 assessment may be correct that particularly because of the apparent=20 orientation of the electrode when I screw it into the hole ending up = such=20 that the apex hit the curved back part rather than the end pointed = toward=20 the center electrode.  It appears the apex seal did bounce over = that=20 curve part for a while and either the apex seals finally gave way or = the=20 springs under them did.  Perhaps Lynn would know if its = possible to=20 break the springs while leaving the seal = intact.

Could the seals be bent to the = point=20 they no longer can more freely in the=20 = grooves?

Finn

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