Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 765359 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:06:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from [209.214.44.217] by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050301210533.PBMT2072.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[209.214.44.217]> for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 16:05:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [266.5.2]); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 15:05:27 -0600 Message-ID: <00fd01c51ea2$64224570$0a2cd6d1@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: testing injectors Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:05:26 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-4224D9172FFF=======" --=======AVGMAIL-4224D9172FFF======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C51E70.1968DBC0" ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C51E70.1968DBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did order another injector, Mark....I will feel more comfortable with = a new one. Paul Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: testing injectors Paul, Someone suggested slamming the injector down on a 2 x 4 to free it up. = I think the objective here is to try to persuade the plunger to = activate. I think this would be most effective if you directed the = forces in the direction of plunger travel. Seems it would take less = force and there would be less chance of damage to the injector. If I = understand how injectors function, you would want to turn it upside down = and hit the inlet side against the board. =20 Or, you could order a new injector. ;-) =20 Mark =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: testing injectors =20 Thanks, Mark. I'm thinking that if I put it in a vise, I might be = able to un-flatten it. I will remember the carb cleaner trick. Thanks = again. Paul Conner =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: testing injectors =20 Paul, My injectors sat for quite a while and got all dried out inside. = There must have been some gasoline left in the fuel rails and injectors = that dried out over time. When I went to use them, they wouldn't = "click". I sprayed some carb cleaner into the inlets and let it sit and = soften up the gasoline residue. Tested them again (+12v) and they = started working and seem fine now. No, I didn't try the 16# hammer = approach. ;-) =20 =20 Mark S. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] testing injectors =20 I recall someone posting that you could test to see if an injector = is firing by just attaching 12 volts + and - to the two pins of the = injectors, and you should hear a click. Is this a very subtle click, or = fairly loud and easy to hear? I have the peak and hold type injectors = if that matters at all. (72 lb/hr). I touched the two wires to the = injector's pins, and I believe I was only hearing the faint spark caused = by the wires making contact. After about 5 seconds with the two wires = still touching the pins, the injector got pretty hot. Sound terminal or = normal?=20 I called Dave Atkins and he said to send the injector to him, = and he would check it out. If need be, he has replacement injectors. = Don't know the cost (don't really care, just want one). Sounded like he = was in a hurry, so I didn't keep him on the phone. Thanks for any info = you guys might have to offer regarding testing the injectors, etc. Paul = Conner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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I did order another injector, Mark....I = will feel more comfortable with a new one.  Paul = Conner
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark R Steitle =
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 = 2:46=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = testing=20 injectors

Paul,

Someone = suggested=20 slamming the injector down on a 2 x 4 to free it up.  I think the = objective here is to try to persuade the plunger to activate.  I = think=20 this would be most effective if you directed the forces in the = direction of=20 plunger travel.  Seems it would take less force and there would = be less=20 chance of damage to the injector.  If I understand how injectors=20 function, you would want to turn it upside down and hit the inlet side = against=20 the board.

 

Or, you = could order a=20 new injector.  ;-)

 

Mark

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 = 2:30=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = testing=20 injectors

 

Thanks, Mark.  I'm = thinking=20 that if I put it in a vise, I might be able to un-flatten it. I will = remember=20 the carb cleaner trick. Thanks again.  Paul=20 Conner

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Mark R Steitle=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:53 AM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: testing injectors

 

Paul,

My = injectors sat=20 for quite a while and got all dried out inside.  There must = have been=20 some gasoline left in the fuel rails and injectors that dried out = over=20 time.  When I went to use them, they wouldn=92t = =93click=94.  I sprayed=20 some carb cleaner into the inlets and let it sit and soften up the = gasoline=20 residue.  Tested them again (+12v) and they started working and = seem=20 fine now.  No, I didn=92t try the 16# hammer approach.  = ;-) =20  

 

Mark=20 S.

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, February 28, = 2005 8:23=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] testing=20 injectors

 

I recall someone = posting that=20 you could test to see if an injector is firing by just attaching 12 = volts +=20 and - to the two pins of the injectors, and you should hear a = click. =20 Is this a very subtle click, or fairly loud and easy to hear?  = I have=20 the peak and hold type injectors if that matters at all. (72 = lb/hr).  I=20 touched the two wires to the injector's pins, and I believe I was = only=20 hearing the faint spark caused by the wires making contact.  = After=20 about 5 seconds with the two wires still touching the pins, the = injector got=20 pretty hot. Sound terminal or=20 normal? 

      I=20 called Dave Atkins and he said to send the injector to him, and he = would=20 check it out. If need be, he has replacement injectors. Don't know = the cost=20 (don't really care, just want one). Sounded like he was in a hurry, = so I=20 didn't keep him on the phone. Thanks for any info you guys might = have to=20 offer regarding testing the injectors, etc.  Paul=20 Conner

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