Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 764556 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:46:31 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.75]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B493358A74 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08327-05-96 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F115F358998 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42248E21.7060308@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:45:37 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]actual water flow was Belt rumnations; soliciting Opinions of racers please.... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0509-1, 03/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I understand that, but I thought that had a different label. Like head pressure to me always represented the pressure produced by a column of water - potential energy. Pressure produced by a pump to pump water uphill or round and round real fast I would have labeled "pump pressure" or "kinetic pressure" or something like that to connote kinetic energy. But then I'm not sure how much clarity is gained by the distinct labels ... Jim S. Al Gietzen wrote: >Rusty, >I only heard today that Al G. had flow data on his dyno. He might have >some ideas around this. As to head pressure, I believe I was taught >that head pressure only exists in an open system. In a closed system it >all cancels out going around the circle. >But that was a long time ago ... Jim S. > >Sorry; but there ain't no free ride; that would be tantamount to perpetual >motion. Yes, if you add all the losses and offset it with the boost across >the pump, it equals zero. But the pump has to do the work to overcome the >losses around the loop. No pressure across the pump - no flow. > >Al > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > >