Return-Path: Received: from rokland5.awh.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 764495 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:24:00 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:32895 helo=quail) by rokland5.awh.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D69DL-0004z1-VR for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:23:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 08:23:10 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: flow measurements Message-Id: <20050301082310.2e230c8a.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.3 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rokland5.awh.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Hi Todd, This guage uses a pressure differential thru an orifice. See here: http://www.nciweb.net/liquids.htm My guage is for a 1 1/2 inch pipe and the orifice is around 3/4 inch or so. That may introduce some restriction, but I'm hoping it isn't enough to change the readings too much. This could be used in flight if I ignore the requirement to not change the pipe diameter for a length of 10 diameters. The guage includes a transmitter so that I could get readings remotely. I will have to take a look at the guage Rusty found. I just couldn't find anything retail at a reasonable price. Since I don't quite have the engine running yet, I'm going to try getting a little temperature data by blowing a hot air gun on the radiator. I've decided to stick with 50/50 ethylene glycol for my initial tests. I'm glad the scale problem was mentioned as I will now use distilled water from the start. Bob White On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:50:29 -0800 "Todd Bartrim" wrote: > Message > I bought an RCM-7000 guage on ebay for $50.00 with a measurement range of > 4 to 30 GPM. > > A Google search for RCM-7000 only found a "coverslipping machine" whatever > that is? So what sort of flow gauge is it that you've got there? > > > I ended up buying two mechanical gauges from McMaster Carr. One is 1-4.5 > gpm, and the other is 5-30 gpm (the highest in that type of gauge). Each > was $59. > Rusty > Same Question? Whacha got? Can either of these be used in flight or is > it just for ground tests? Are these an orifice type? (square root extraction > of DP). If so then they will add a little restriction, but this is where > that pressure recovery and permanent pressure loss comes into play. > > The best, most accurate and least restrictive way to measure is using a > magnetic flowtube, which I used in my initial testing. Unfortunately these > are unsuitable for in-flight use due to weight, size, $$$$$$$$$$$, and power > requirements. > > The Signet flowmeter that I used was $543 CAD. At least that's what my > uuhh... "supplier" had paid for it. (obsolete stock) > > Todd Bartrim > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon)