Return-Path: Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 757325 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:53:20 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.166; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2383B35845C for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28333-01-69 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687D3584CE for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <421DEA35.3060001@frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:52:37 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: E-shaft permanent magnet alternator References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0508-2, 02/23/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I don't see the point of two primaries (unless you're using 1920s era technology like mags). My notion is to have a good, solid ND primary and either a [small] backup battery or [small] backup Alt. If I have redundant primaries, I'm probably too heavy, and (just me) more tempted to drive around with one failed while I wait on parts or something. If we stipulate that we're talking about inflight failures, even a minimal (15-20 amp) backup alt will extend my battery life waaay beyond fuel exhaustion. Remember, we've been talking about batteries that will fly us for an hour or more all by themselves. It doesn't take much of a backup alt to reduce that discharge rate enough to extend the battery life to more hours than we have fuel for. Even with EFI, EWP electrical retractable gear, 20 amps would bring us home ... Jim S. WRJJRS@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/23/2005 9:42:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, > canarder@frontiernet.net writes: > > <... If you have a real AMP-sucker they can probably stack two ...> > It's not there for normal operations. It's to get you home. Even > 10 or 15 amps would greatly extend battery life. That's the > object of the exercise. > Jim S. > > Partially true Jim, If the output is enough for you it can be your > primary. Of course if you used a belt driven alternator as a primary > it would be fine as a backup. > Bill Jepson