Return-Path: Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 725438 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:10:26 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.65; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from [209.214.44.1] by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050211210936.TXRG1992.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[209.214.44.1]> for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:09:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.8.7]); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:09:21 -0600 Message-ID: <001801c5107d$f3098150$012cd6d1@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: More wild ideas was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: To Paul SOme diagnosis thoughts Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:09:18 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-420D1F013EFC=======" --=======AVGMAIL-420D1F013EFC======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C5104B.A83A93D0" ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C5104B.A83A93D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Slade=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: More wild ideas was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: To = Paul SOme diagnosis thoughts=20 One final thought.....my aluminum sump tank in not vented. Seems we = discussed this at length when I was building this thing, and since the = overflow is pumped into the sump tank, the fuel might just be pumped = right out of the vent. =20 Paul, this sounds a LOT like a problem I've experienced.=20 My returns go to the main tanks switched by a solenoid. I used to be = able to create a crossfeed situation where I was drawing from one tank, = but returning to the other. The tank receiving the return became full, = and I lost power down to 2500 rpm or so. I was in the pattern when this = occurred, so I just brought it home. I had fuel coming out of the vent. = I've seen this twice when trying to feed the return to a full tank. = Maybe the fuel pressure drops under these circumstances. In my case I've rewired the switches to avoid crossfeed and added a = crossfeed warning light.=20 Regards, John Hi, John....No fun pumping perfectly good fuel overboard. In my = system, the unused fuel is pumped back into the aluminum sump tank. If = the sump tank is already full, then less fuel would be drawn from the = main tank, (I presume), or it would slowly just push the fuel into the = sump tank and back up the main supply line back into the selected tank. = ( I have an Andair fuel tank selector, and can select left, right or = both). Of course this system only has approximately 9.5 flight hours and = maybe 10 initial ground/taxi hours, so it is not entirely proven, of = course. I shamelessly copied Ed Anderson's aluminum sump tank, with the = exception that my tank is slightly larger, and is located on the cool = side of the firewall instead of the engine side of the firewall like = Ed's. Paul Conner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C5104B.A83A93D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: More = wild ideas=20 was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: To Paul SOme diagnosis thoughts

One final thought.....my aluminum = sump tank in=20 not vented. Seems we discussed this at length when I was building this = thing,=20 and since the overflow is pumped into the sump tank, the fuel might = just be=20 pumped right out of the vent.  
Paul, this sounds a LOT like a = problem I've=20 experienced.
My=20 returns go to the main tanks switched by a solenoid. I used to be = able to=20 create a crossfeed situation where I was drawing from one = tank, but=20 returning to the other. The tank receiving the return became full, and = I lost=20 power down to 2500 rpm or so. I was in the pattern when this occurred, = so I=20 just brought it home. I had fuel coming out of the vent. I've seen = this twice=20 when trying to feed the return to a full tank. Maybe the fuel pressure = drops=20 under these circumstances.
 
In=20 my case I've rewired the switches to avoid crossfeed and added a=20 crossfeed warning light.
Regards,
John
 
 
Hi, John....No fun = pumping=20 perfectly good fuel overboard. In my system, the unused fuel is pumped = back=20 into the aluminum sump tank. If the sump tank is already full, then = less fuel=20 would be drawn from the main tank, (I presume), or it would slowly = just push=20 the fuel into the sump tank and back up the main supply line back into = the=20 selected tank. ( I have an Andair fuel tank selector, and can select = left,=20 right or both). Of course this system only has approximately 9.5 = flight hours=20 and maybe 10 initial ground/taxi hours, so it is not entirely proven, = of=20 course.  I shamelessly copied Ed Anderson's aluminum sump tank, = with the=20 exception that my tank is slightly larger, and is located on the cool = side of=20 the firewall instead of the engine side of the firewall like = Ed's.  Paul=20 Conner
 


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