Return-Path: Received: from mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.158] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP-TLS id 724795 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:09:09 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.133.158; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-29-165-181.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.29.165.181]) by mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j1BA8EEN016935 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:08:16 +1100 Message-ID: <006a01c51021$e7c37a00$b5a51dd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] For Jesse: Mules, Grog and EFI tuners was : Microtech EFI andTuning, was Leon's nose Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:10:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C51075.B8F3CA50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C51075.B8F3CA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jesse, Leon is right about the beer, but what he doesn't know is that Fosters = is readily available in the States - mind you it's made over there under = licence for local tastes and tastes nothing like the real Fosters. I = really hated to tell you that! The Southerners have a little trouble getting used to XXXX beer and = sometimes refer to it as barbed-wire. Where as the VB is a lot milder = taste. To me, Fosters in the States tastes like Bud. When I was in the US last a barman asked what beer I wanted - I told him = it didn't matter! Or something to that effect! George (down under) Yo Jesse, Thanks for the support about the "mule" concept. I've been doing it = this way for 30 years. Works!! =20 Real Men downunder drink VB (Victoria Bitter - even in NSW), or if = you come from Queensland (like George), XXXX (Four X) is the only = lubricant. Fosters drinkers are now only one step removed form the = Chardonnay Socialist Set. Blokes downunder haven't been drinking = Fosters since Barry Hunphries started dressing in drag (as Dame Edna). = Even Les Patterson, our "Cultural Attache" is a spirits man. So yes, = you are a victim of TV hype and deception (pardon the pun!!). As for engine tuners in the USA, I never thought that yanks were = backward about coming forward to tell all and sundry how good they are. = (}:>) Downunder, "modest yank" is a bit of an oxymoron. (ACRE's = comptroller immediately comes to mind!) Then maybe we only get the brash = extroverted types here on holidays ?? (Unlike all the really nice = polite considerate and helpful people who are on the Fly Rotary list!). Cheers, Leon ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jesse farr=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: For Tom Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI = andTuning, was Leon's nose Leon: I couldn't agree with you more. I personally think you need = an old rx to run your aircraft engine around on the street also before = worrying about tuning for flight. Just personal opinion; but, I know = they not only seem to do better but it is a heck of a lot easier to cost = to the curb and walk home.=20 >>> ( the cold amber liquid!! ) <<< you mean foster's ain't ozian for beer ? has my tv lied to me = again/still ? >>> I'm sure that there are a bunch of people in the USA (being the home = of hot-rodding), who are far cleverer than I, and are equally adept at = the "black art" of tuning aftermarket EFI systems. The trick is to find = one in your neck of the woods.=20 <<< actually the trick is to find one who will even admit it and be = honest about it, if there is such; then the rest gets easier. jofarr ----- Original Message ----- From: Leon=20 With new motors, my preferred way of running them in is to stick = them in a "Mule" and just drive around for 600 miles / 1,000 km or so. = It's not just the miles/time. It's the process of multiple heat and = cool cycles which allows everything to "snuggle in". Obviously this = isn't practical for most people. But I do get the best results with = motors that have been carefully bedded-in. They tend to last longer, = and run "sweeter". ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C51075.B8F3CA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jesse,
Leon is right about the beer, but what = he doesn't=20 know is that Fosters is readily available in the States - mind you it's = made=20 over there under licence for local tastes and tastes nothing like the = real=20 Fosters. I really hated to tell you that!
 
The Southerners have a little trouble = getting used=20 to XXXX beer and sometimes refer to it as barbed-wire. Where as the VB = is a lot=20 milder taste.
To me, Fosters in the States tastes = like=20 Bud.
 
When I was in the US last a barman = asked what=20 beer I wanted - I told him it didn't matter! Or something to that=20 effect!
George (down under)
Yo Jesse,
 
Thanks for the support about the = "mule"=20 concept.  I've been doing it this way for 30 years.  = Works!! =20
 
Real Men downunder drink VB (Victoria = Bitter=20 -  even in NSW),  or if you come from Queensland (like=20 George),  XXXX (Four X) is the only lubricant.  Fosters=20 drinkers are now only one step removed form the Chardonnay = Socialist=20 Set.  Blokes downunder haven't been drinking Fosters since Barry=20 Hunphries started dressing in drag (as Dame Edna). Even Les=20 Patterson,  our "Cultural Attache" is a spirits=20 man.  So yes,  you = are a victim=20 of TV hype and deception (pardon the pun!!).
 
As for engine tuners in the = USA,  I=20 never thought that yanks were backward about coming forward to tell = all and=20 sundry how good they are. (}:>)  Downunder,  "modest = yank" is a=20 bit of an oxymoron. (ACRE's comptroller immediately comes to = mind!) Then maybe we only get the brash extroverted types here on = holidays ??  (Unlike all the really nice polite considerate=20 and helpful people who are on the Fly Rotary list!).
 
Cheers,
 
Leon
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jesse farr=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, February 11, = 2005 8:44=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: For = Tom Re:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI andTuning, was Leon's nose

Leon: I couldn't agree with you = more.  I=20 personally think you need an old rx to run your aircraft engine = around on=20 the street also before worrying about tuning for flight.  = Just=20 personal opinion; but, I know they not only seem to do better but it = is a=20 heck of a lot easier to cost to the curb and walk home. =
>>>
( the cold amber liquid!! = )
<<<
you mean foster's ain't ozian for = beer ? has my=20 tv lied to me again/still ?
>>>
I'm sure that there are a bunch of = people in=20 the USA (being the home of hot-rodding),  who are far cleverer = than=20 I, and are equally adept at the "black art" of tuning = aftermarket EFI=20 systems.  The trick is to find one in your neck of the = woods.=20
<<<
actually the trick is to find one = who will even=20 admit it and be honest about it, if there is such; then the = rest gets=20 easier.
 
jofarr
----- Original Message ----- = From: Leon=20
 
With new motors,  my = preferred way of=20 running them in is to stick them in a "Mule" and just drive around = for 600=20 miles / 1,000 km or so.  It's not just the = miles/time. =20 It's the process of multiple heat and cool cycles which allows = everything=20 to "snuggle in".  Obviously this isn't practical for most=20 people.  But I do get the best results with motors that have = been=20 carefully bedded-in.  They tend to last longer,  and run = = "sweeter".
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