Return-Path: Received: from rokland5.awh.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP-TLS id 724697 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:04:52 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:34251 helo=quail) by rokland5.awh.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzSyK-0005N4-R8 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:04:05 -0600 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:04:03 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Displacement, Was: Solved!!!! Message-Id: <20050210220403.0e19e78a.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rokland5.awh.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Hi Tom, As I say, my comment isn't directed at the calculations at all. There has been much discussion about what the displacement is, and how much of the rotation to count. Mazda claiming 1.3 L for example. I stand by my statement about the displacement. That seems to be exactly the way Ed has used it. Quote from Ed's post: "Taken the rotor reference we have 6 faces of 40 CID displacement in one revolution of the rotor. So at 6000 e shaft rpm (2000 rotor rpm) we have Air Flow (rotor Ref) = 6 * 40 * 2000/1728 = 277.77 CFM" The 6 * 40 is the 240 cu. in. displacement, 2000 RPM, and 1728 to convert to CFM. What am I missing? Bob White On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:33:43 -0800 (PST) Tom wrote: > Sorry, > Additonally, Bob you say "the rotary (uses it's displacement ) in 3 > revolutions of the E-shaft or one revolution of the rotors." While > all of the displacement of all the rotors is disturbed during one > revolution of all of the rotors, Ed's work attempts to determine how > much combustion charge is consumed (factoring in displacement and > other factors) per revolution of the rotors and then determine CFM > based on consumed combustion charges and rpm. Apparently it isn't as > simple as what you said about 'uses it's displacement' Or so I think. > Tom > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon)