Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #16903
From: Leon <peon@pacific.net.au>
Subject: For Tom Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI and Tuning, was Leon's nose
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:32:37 +1100
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Tom,
 
Thanks for the email.  I try to be precise in all my comms.  Biut when I get fired up,  I do get inspired!  It's my Balkan ethnic heritage! 
 
By "Professional",  what I mean is somebody who does dyno tuning/Aftermarket EFI for a living.  The trick is to find "The Man".  You won't find him at a Mazda Dealer.  He will be a man that runs a tuning business,  and ideally,  he will probably specialise in rotaries,  but not necessarily.  He will probably have racing experience.   We have dozens of such shops here in Sydney,  and every other state of Oz.  Some are good,  some are mediocre,  and some are useless. 
 
With new motors,  my preferred way of running them in is to stick them in a "Mule" and just drive around for 600 miles / 1,000 km or so.  It's not just the miles/time.  It's the process of multiple heat and cool cycles which allows everything to "snuggle in".  Obviously this isn't practical for most people.  But I do get the best results with motors that have been carefully bedded-in.  They tend to last longer,  and run "sweeter".
 
Any serious race engine gets at least 2,000 kms in the mule.  John,  the guy with whom I share the workshop (George has met him - they both have a distinct liking for the cold amber liquid!!).  ),  is of the same opinion  Back in the '80s racing Production Street Sedans (dead stock as a rock - no mods),  John was the man to beat,   He'd do the same.  Motors would be run-in on the street,  and having a wrecking yard at the time,  John usually had a spare on the shelf ready to go.  But I do remember on more than the odd occasion where the yard "gronk" was stuck in a "mule",  given a fist full of dollars for fuel & food, and told to "go for a 'burger and a 'shake"!  Two or three nights of that and the motor was ready for battle.
 
Engines can also be run-in on a dyno,  but that can become expensive.  With aircraft,  the engine can be run-in doing some ground running (with the bush turkeys) and some high speed taxying.  I just don't like taking brand-newly assembled motors and running them at full bore.  At a bare minimum,  I'd always like to see at least a couple of hours at light to moderate varying load,  and several heat/cool cycles and an oil & filter change before giving the thing "the mustard".
 
So as for "flip-flopping",  you do me a dis-service.  My PREFERRED scenario is that the engine is normally run-in first,  THEN dyno'd.  But circumstances being what they are,  one must cut one's coat according to the cloth.  
 
A mate of mine now has a new "bolt to the wheels" dyno.  No more rollers and melted tyres.  Often,  the engine can now be dyno'd directly in the "Mule",  as long as it's got the right manifolding etc. The "Mule' has an exhaust that can be swapped to race specs in a few minutes. Otherwise,  the engine is fitted to the race car and dyno'd in race trim,  or stuck on an engine dyno.  Engine dynos are better for development,  but this new "bolt-up" DynaPack axle dyno is just the best.  See:
 
 
Right at the moment,  I'm off the grog (probably for the next 12 months or so at least).  I've just been through a serious viral lung/heart illness and my liver needs to be looked after.  I'm also not in a fit state to travel either, especially long distances in high flying aircaft.  So I would have to decline any such kind offer at the moment.  When I'm fit and well again,  I'd like to attend Oshkosh,  so maybe next year we can get together and have a "bench race"  or two.
 
However,  in the mean time,  I'm sure that there are a bunch of people in the USA (being the home of hot-rodding),  who are far cleverer than I,  and are equally adept at the "black art" of tuning aftermarket EFI systems.  The trick is to find one in your neck of the woods.
 
Cheers,
 
Leon
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI and Tuning, was Leon's nose

Leon,
 
You're very articulate when you're fired up.   Good info.   My only other feedback:
 
When you refer to 'professional', it would seem that does not include the standard tech from the Mazda dealer.   It must be someone who works in a racing circuit because they've learned more from working with customized installations.   My assumption anyway.
 
Earlier I mentioned my intention to have my installation debugged and dyno'd on a dyno.   Wasn't it you that said a person should just stick it in a mule and drive it to get burgers for a couple weeks?   It's okay, I won't accuse you of flip-flopping.   Well, flip-flopping isn't really a bad thing.   
I did say in my provocative post it was my .01 cents worth.
 
If Paul were to fly you to Alabama for a few days vacation and evaluation of your skills, would you drink American beer?
 
Tom

Leon <peon@pacific.net.au> wrote:
Hey Tom,
 
Couldn't help reading your comment:
 
 "Microtech isn't that cheap and sofar not proven that reliable overall."  
 
That  sort of comment REALLY,  REALLY gets up my nose, 


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