Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #16889
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: : 13b vs 360 performance
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:24:35 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Actually, Tom
 
The answer to your question is yes!  Even I have achieved 6800 rpm in level flight - but, you need to ask with what gear box ratio and what prop.  The 6800 rpm was with the 2.85:1 gear ratio and a 76x88 prop.   Put on a low pitched short diameter prop and you can easily achieve 6000 rpm even with a 2.17:1 gear box.  My top rpm with that set up was 6300 rpm and Tracy Crook got much higher - I think he achieved 7200 rpm.
 
Yes, all in level flight, gravity assist does not count {:>)
 
Now, if your induction/exhaust is not correct or if your Fuel MAP for your EFI is not set up right and ignition timing is not optimum, Or if you have a very draggy airframe which precludes unloading the prop and engine as you pick up airspeed, then certainly you can produce a lot less power.  But, that's true of aircraft engines or rotaries.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: : 13b vs 360 performance

Ed / Jerry,
I stand corrected.  Let me say that 'the 13b power I see being achieved so far in NA 13b airplane installations seem to be less than what O-360 guys are getting'.    After mounting props was anybody able to attain even 6000 rpm in their 13b NA aircraft installation, level-flight?
 
Tom 

Jerry Hey <jerryhey@earthlink.net> wrote:
I assume you are talking about a 6000 rpm limited rotary vs a wide open
0-360. Run the rotary faster and thats the end of the story. Jerry

 Ed Anderson wrote:
> Tom, 
> I don't really think anyone can accurately make a generalization like
> that. 
 
> From: Tom
> It's my understanding that NA non-renesis rotary installations
> produce less power than 360s, Perry Mick might have a word on this.
 

> Eric Ruttan wrote:
> A 360 Lyc does not produce the same power as a rotary.
> If true, then the Ellison card may not get enough air.
> If not true, then there is no real reason why the Ellison cannot feed a
> rotary.
>
> Ed, I understand your math, but even if the local inlet velocity is much
> higher, we dont care. the velocities adverage out to the same, as the
> volume of air = velocity * carb area.
>
> If the velocities are higher, the rotary consumes more air, and makes
> more power.
>


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