Return-Path: Received: from web41501.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with SMTP id 723614 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:53:12 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.218.93.84; envelope-from=tomtugan@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50550 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2005 15:52:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=rhQtu4C5QBcJrhySOplImpv7E6HH61rWlQHykwmaxV4HH89uqIuEt3FdoO/5+PCmEgdzkoO+/f5z+KcF8vluB6FQRqsRk3hhuAt3tP4EkRJJP/Dbso+0I0TbgTIbQiXr53kBtRdUElwNskWcWxFelhXSNre3yTkc1d72cTQNY5s= ; Message-ID: <20050210155226.50548.qmail@web41501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.224.93.112] by web41501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:52:26 PST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:52:26 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: : 13b vs 360 performance To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-69053167-1108050746=:48332" --0-69053167-1108050746=:48332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed / Jerry, I stand corrected. Let me say that 'the 13b power I see being achieved so far in NA 13b airplane installations seem to be less than what O-360 guys are getting'. After mounting props was anybody able to attain even 6000 rpm in their 13b NA aircraft installation, level-flight? Tom Jerry Hey wrote: I assume you are talking about a 6000 rpm limited rotary vs a wide open 0-360. Run the rotary faster and thats the end of the story. Jerry Ed Anderson wrote: > Tom, > I don't really think anyone can accurately make a generalization like > that. > From: Tom > It's my understanding that NA non-renesis rotary installations > produce less power than 360s, Perry Mick might have a word on this. > Eric Ruttan wrote: > A 360 Lyc does not produce the same power as a rotary. > If true, then the Ellison card may not get enough air. > If not true, then there is no real reason why the Ellison cannot feed a > rotary. > > Ed, I understand your math, but even if the local inlet velocity is much > higher, we dont care. the velocities adverage out to the same, as the > volume of air = velocity * carb area. > > If the velocities are higher, the rotary consumes more air, and makes > more power. > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' --0-69053167-1108050746=:48332 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ed / Jerry,
I stand corrected.  Let me say that 'the 13b power I see being achieved so far in NA 13b airplane installations seem to be less than what O-360 guys are getting'.    After mounting props was anybody able to attain even 6000 rpm in their 13b NA aircraft installation, level-flight?
 
Tom 

Jerry Hey <jerryhey@earthlink.net> wrote:
I assume you are talking about a 6000 rpm limited rotary vs a wide open
0-360. Run the rotary faster and thats the end of the story. Jerry

 Ed Anderson wrote:
> Tom, 
> I don't really think anyone can accurately make a generalization like
> that. 
 
> From: Tom
> It's my understanding that NA non-renesis rotary installations
> produce less power than 360s, Perry Mick might have a word on this.
 

> Eric Ruttan wrote:
> A 360 Lyc does not produce the same power as a rotary.
> If true, then the Ellison card may not get enough air.
> If not true, then there is no real reason why the Ellison cannot feed a
> rotary.
>
> Ed, I understand your math, but even if the local inlet velocity is much
> higher, we dont care. the velocities adverage out to the same, as the
> volume of air = velocity * carb area.
>
> If the velocities are higher, the rotary consumes more air, and makes
> more power.
>


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