Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #15811
From: David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynos II (was Re: changed to Octane)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:29:50 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Well... The RD1-B is at a 2.17:1 gear ratio.. so 2700-3000 rpm would be the high end coming out of the PSRU gearbox. I know that some cars their top gear in the tranny is a 1:1, so 3000 rpm at the engine is transmitted to the wheels.. so i would expect (er.. HOPE) the "drivetrain" to handle it..
 
After looking at the PL plans, it seems feasible to build the dyno he describes, but it would involve mounting the engine to a separate test stand and then putting a prop on it.. I was hoping to figure out some way to not have to put the prop on (or if we did, use a loaner prop) so that we could figure out exactly what our engine was capable of doing, THEN getting the prop matched to the known power available, rather than guessing.
 
I guess it would be possible to rig up an axle brake as a load device and couple that with a PL style dyno (measuring torque with a sidearm).. Wouldnt be able to measure static thrust that way.. but hey.. its not a major factor until the right prop is on there.
 
Dont know if practical or not, but a load cell on a trailer hitch might be able to measure static thrust if the whole thing was trailer mounted. For what its worth I swung by the airport and got the cardboard template for the firewall. I may see how practical this will be to build or not.. If the bennies dont outweigh the cost, it may not be worth it.. but it would be nice to get a good breakin on the engine and test under load without having to do it during the flight test.. Might be able to address cooling issues up front too, and insure that what we have is adequate.
 
Dave

Jack Ford wrote:
How's about adapting a flange-style u-joint to the output of the engine and
running a driveshaft? 'Course the driveshaft might get launched spinning at
9k or so, and so might the truck axle pinion and bearings.
Might be a better arrangement to use a stick-shift transmission (in granny)
between the engine and the truck axle, use the axle for brakes and measure
torque at the engine mount. Same cat.

Jack Ford

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Lehanover@aol.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 11:10 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynos II (was Re: changed to Octane)


  
In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:08:34 PM Central Standard Time,
dale.r@cox.net writes:

Build a disc to bolt to the companion flange of a truck differential and
    
the
  
flywheel of a rotary.

How about elongating half of the bolt holes in the backing plate, in an
    
arc
  
to conform with the bolt circle diameter. Use smaller bolts and drop in a
    
small
  
needle bearing around each bolt/stud. Now the backing plate can articulate
    
a
  
bit around the centerline of the axle. Mount the transducer to a bracket
welded to the housing, and the other end to the backing plate. Calibrate
    
the output
  
with a torque wrench.

There you go. A truck axle dyno.

Don't forget the math to take out the effect of the differential ratio,
    
lest
  
you report some giant numbers.


Lynn E. Hanover

    
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