Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #15772
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Manifold-Reference Fuel Pressure was [FlyRotary]Re: Fuel Injector Sizing
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:58 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Sizing
Depends on the type of pressure regulator.  The concept of a manifold-referenced pressure regulator is to keep the pressure differential between the pressure of the fuel and the pressure of the manifold a constant.  That way the injectors see the same pressure differential at all times and inject the same amount of fuel for the same duration open time.
 
  If the pressure regulator does not compensate for the difference, then when the fuel pressure is 40 psi and the throttle wide open the difference would be (approx) 40 - 14.7  (at sea level standard day) = 25.3 psi.  Then if you close the throttle and manifold pressure drops to - say 7.7 psi then the difference would be 40 - 7.7 = 32.3 psi.  So there would be a 7.7  psi increase  in pressure across the injectors and more fuel would be injected for the same duration signal.  So in this example the manifold-referenced fuel pressure regulator should sense the manifold pressure and reduce the fuel pressure  by 7 psi down to 32.3 psi.  Then the difference 32.3 - 7 = 25.3  psi and the injectors see the same pressure differential at both throttle settings and injects the same amount of fuel for the same duration in both cases for steadier performance. 
 
If that understanding is correct then it would seem to imply you should see the fuel pressure gauge reacting to major changes in manifold pressure (say from WOT to idle) without a problem.  If the pressure regulator was not manifold-referenced then, the fuel pressure would be maintain at some constant pressure without regard to maintaining the pressure differential across the injectors and you would see a steady fuel gauge needle.
 
 At least, that is my understanding of it. 
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From: jesse farr
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Manifold-Reference Fuel Pressure was [FlyRotary]Re: Fuel Injector Sizing

Ain't that what they are supposed to do ?  Keep it steady as outside pressure diminishes ? Doesn't your gauge suffer from the same diminishing outside pressure as altitude increases; therefore, wouldn't they stay constant, if working properly ? 'Splain to us simple minded, of which I may be the only one.
jofarr
----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson
 
I agree with your statement, Buly.  Ideally if the pressure differential between fuel rail and manifold is kept constant by use of a manifold reference then that would imply that the fuel pressure should vary to compensate for different manifold pressure.  However, my fuel pressure is rock steady and this is the second manifold-referenced fuel pressure regulator I have used with no difference.  So either my manifold-reference fuel pressure regulator isn't or I am misunderstanding what they are suppose to do.
 
But, that is my experience.  How about others of you flying what is your experience with fuel pressure???  Does it vary? The variance corresponds to what??
 
 
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