Return-Path: Received: from [24.227.161.51] (HELO qnsi-xch.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 604923 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:31:56 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.227.161.51; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8D5.4A3D468E" Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins engine Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:34:02 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins engine thread-index: AcTyFi4NvaUxiTXSRg6fOvGi7z+d9wGvrYdA From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8D5.4A3D468E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just check my Renesis crate engine. I had quiet a bit of what looked like green coolant / moisture in the engine. Will have to wait a couple of more months to open and see if any corrosion exists.=20 =20 Bobby Hughes ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of potato Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:28 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins engine Rusty, It's my issue all over again.=20 =20 John, About last spring I found water in my "new" engine that was bought from RX7 Specialties. It has been sitting several years. I can only attribute the water to condensation as I don't think the shop ran these engines after they were mod'ed. When I removed the drain plug I got rusty colored water. Not good. It took several weeks for it to stop weeping. I intend to open the engine to see how much corrosion there is and clean it out. Hopefully it has not gotten to the o-ring grooves. At the rate I'm building I have plenty of time to work out any issues this causes! Dean Head Brooksville FL Cozy MK4 =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:24 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins engine =20 Dave L; I almost had the big one reading your post on Atkins engine, and the condition of it being set up with rust. I nearly ran out to the garage, tore the tape off the exhaust ports, grabbed a bar and turned the engine over. To my delight, the compression is great and the rotors look like it was assembled yesterday, =20 John,=20 =20 OK, take some slow deep breaths, because you're not out of the woods yet. The rust was from water in the cooling passages, which you can't see from the exhaust ports. Remove the block drain plug and hope nothing comes out. It's located on the center iron housing, on the oil filler neck side. At the bottom of the housing, you'll see a long silly looking bolt, that resembles a long acorn nut. Take that out and hope for the best. With any luck, you won't be greeted by rust colored water. =20 =20 For the record, Atkins certainly knows better than to store engines with water, and I suspect he doesn't run them after he rebuilds them, so I don't know why there would be water in there anyway, unless there could just be that much condensation built up over the years. My engine was "new" from Mazda, but a few years old. It was also full of rust because Mazda test ran them and didn't drain the water. I still can't believe they did that. Attached is a pic that Bruce sent when he opened it up. =20 Good luck, Rusty =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8D5.4A3D468E Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message=
I just check my Renesis crate engine. I had = quiet a bit of=20 what looked like green coolant / moisture in the engine. Will have to = wait a=20 couple of more months to open and see if any corrosion exists.=20
 
Bobby Hughes

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = potato
Sent:=20 Monday, January 03, 2005 10:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins = engine

Rusty,

It’s my = issue all over=20 again.

 

John,

About last = spring I=20 found water in my “new” engine that was bought from RX7 = Specialties. It has been=20 sitting several years. I can only attribute the water to condensation as = I don’t=20 think the shop ran these engines after they were mod’ed. When I = removed the=20 drain plug I got rusty colored water. Not good. It took several weeks = for it to=20 stop weeping. I intend to open the engine to see how much corrosion = there is and=20 clean it out. Hopefully it has not gotten to the o-ring grooves. At the = rate I’m=20 building I have plenty of time to work out any issues this=20 causes!

Dean=20 Head

Brooksville FL

Cozy=20 MK4

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Russell=20 Duffy
Sent:=20 Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:24 PM
To: Rotary motors=20 in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins=20 engine

 

Dave=20 L;  I almost had the big one reading your post on Atkins engine, = and the=20 condition of it being set up with rust.  I nearly ran out to the = garage,=20 tore the tape off the exhaust ports,  grabbed a bar and turned the = engine=20 over.  To my delight, the compression is great and the rotors look = like it=20 was assembled yesterday,

 

John,=20

 

OK, take some = slow deep=20 breaths, because you're not out of the woods yet.  The rust was = from water=20 in the cooling passages, which you can't see from the exhaust = ports. =20 Remove the block drain plug and hope nothing comes out.  It's = located=20 on the center iron housing, on the oil filler neck side.  At the = bottom of=20 the housing, you'll see a long silly looking bolt, that resembles a long = acorn=20 nut.  Take that out and hope for the best.  With any=20 luck, you won't be greeted by rust colored=20 water.  

 

For the = record, Atkins=20 certainly knows better than to store engines with water, and I suspect = he=20 doesn't run them after he rebuilds them, so I don't know why there would = be=20 water in there anyway, unless there could just be that much condensation = built=20 up over the years.  My engine was "new" from Mazda, but a few = years=20 old.  It was also full of rust because Mazda test ran = them and=20 didn't drain the water.  I still can't believe they did=20 that.  Attached is a pic that Bruce sent when he opened it = up. =20

 

Good=20 luck,

Rusty

 

 

 

 

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