Return-Path: Received: from mxsf07.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 602166 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:54:55 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.207; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from mxip14.cluster1.charter.net (mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.144]) by mxsf07.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AIsdkr001867 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:54:39 -0500 Received: from fep02.charter.net (HELO 209.225.8.224) (209.225.8.82) by mxip14.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 13:54:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3k786n$l67o9r@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net> X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,113,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="711188795:sNHT13072458" X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: turbo EGT probes Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:54:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not for the higher rotary exhaust temps......tit's typically were ok in piston engines with their lower temps....no telling what will happen with the rotary... Marc > From: Jim Sower > Date: 2005/01/10 Mon PM 05:16:23 GMT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: turbo EGT probes > > Rather than EGT probes, check around for TIT probes. Since they all > reside just upstream of some turbine. one would expect them to be more > robust (read expensive?) than EGT probes. > At least they are intuitively more appropriate ... Jim S. > > David Staten wrote: > > > Putting the EGT after the turbo will not give true accurate results. > > Some of the heat energy of the exhaust is converted to mechanical > > energy and the tailpipe gases are of a lower temp... I'm surmising a > > few hundred degrees less.. One of the turbo calculator spreadsheets > > that was making the rounds actually displayed this Delta T as one of > > its calcs. > > > > Now, I DONT know if the relationships stand up "post" turbo (peak, > > lean of peak, range of variance of temps).. one would think they > > would.. but that is a guess on my part. > > > > Dave > > > > cardmarc@charter.net wrote: > > > >>Only problem is that if a tip piece of the probe breaks off, it will go thru the turbine and make a mess. Just a thought. Many people only put one probe after the turbine because of this possibility. I do not have any firsthand experience with this happening but have heard of it. > >>Marc W > >> > >> > >>>From: Bulent Aliev > >>>Date: 2005/01/10 Mon AM 01:51:58 GMT > >>>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > >>>Subject: [FlyRotary] EGT probes > >>> > >>>Hi Guys, > >>>I removed my turbo manifold today for ceramic coating, so I want to install > >>>two EGT probes, one for each rotor. I want to drill and tap into the cast > >>>iron manifold about 1" away from the exhaust ports. My questions are: > >>>1. Any draw backs? > >>>2. Recommendations for probes that will stand up to the heat in this > >>>location and will work with the EM2. > >>> > >>>My engine starts instantly every time. At the beginning I kept the mixture > >>>knob to the center position. Any movement to the left and the engine would > >>>stumble. Now I'm noticing the knob is fully to the left and it is rich. Not > >>>too rich but more than before? I guess it is time to get into the > >>>programming stuff? > >>>I'm drawing big crowds at the airport with this engine. Today I had to put a > >>>yellow rope on the hangar doors so I can work. Handed chairs to the old > >>>timers, the youngins had standing room only :) > >>> > >>>Buly > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >