Return-Path: Received: from ns5.rokland.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 601970 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:23 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229] helo=quail) by ns5.rokland.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Co3h5-0002Hf-6r for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:51:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:05 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: turbo EGT probes Message-Id: <20050110105105.7b3890aa.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.rokland.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: EGT and TIT seems to be pretty much the same probes. These look just like the ones the previous owner of my plane was using for EGT and I'm planning on installing them about 1-1/2 inches from the exhaust port. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/ei-probes.php Note P/N P110 Bob White On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:16:23 -0600 Jim Sower wrote: > Rather than EGT probes, check around for TIT probes. Since they all > reside just upstream of some turbine. one would expect them to be more > robust (read expensive?) than EGT probes. > At least they are intuitively more appropriate ... Jim S. > > David Staten wrote: > > > Putting the EGT after the turbo will not give true accurate results. > > Some of the heat energy of the exhaust is converted to mechanical > > energy and the tailpipe gases are of a lower temp... I'm surmising a > > few hundred degrees less.. One of the turbo calculator spreadsheets > > > > that was making the rounds actually displayed this Delta T as one of > > its calcs. > > > > Now, I DONT know if the relationships stand up "post" turbo (peak, > > lean of peak, range of variance of temps).. one would think they > > would.. but that is a guess on my part. > > > > Dave > > > > cardmarc@charter.net wrote: > > > >>Only problem is that if a tip piece of the probe breaks off, it will > >go thru the turbine and make a mess. Just a thought. Many people only > >put one probe after the turbine because of this possibility. I do not > >have any firsthand experience with this happening but have heard of > >it. >Marc W > >> > >> > >>>From: Bulent Aliev > >>>Date: 2005/01/10 Mon AM 01:51:58 GMT > >>>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > >>>Subject: [FlyRotary] EGT probes > >>> > >>>Hi Guys, > >>>I removed my turbo manifold today for ceramic coating, so I want to > >install >>two EGT probes, one for each rotor. I want to drill and tap > >into the cast >>iron manifold about 1" away from the exhaust ports. > >My questions are: >>1. Any draw backs? > >>>2. Recommendations for probes that will stand up to the heat in > >this >>location and will work with the EM2. > >>> > >>>My engine starts instantly every time. At the beginning I kept the > >mixture >>knob to the center position. Any movement to the left and > >the engine would >>stumble. Now I'm noticing the knob is fully to the > >left and it is rich. Not >>too rich but more than before? I guess it > >is time to get into the >>programming stuff? > >>>I'm drawing big crowds at the airport with this engine. Today I had > >to put a >>yellow rope on the hangar doors so I can work. Handed > >chairs to the old >>timers, the youngins had standing room only :) > >>> > >>>Buly > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon)