Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 552097 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:10:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iB149u4S022038 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:09:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001401c4d75b$a65dd6e0$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Muffler design Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:10:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine John, My reason for the 4' length was two fold. One, it put the end of the exhaust exit behind the cockpit (always helps in sound reduction {:>)) and two, I could then used that length to try and fit as many sound trap as many different harmonics of the engine rpm that I could fit into that length My rough calculations indicates my traps should reduce sound intensity in the range from 50 Hz to around 2400 Hz. However, if you are focus on say the fundamental frequency (or rather a 1/4 wave length of that frequency )and perhaps its 2nd harmonic (twice the fundamental freq.) which is where most of the exhaust sound energy is located, you could probably get away with 24" or so. Now, I use two separate tubes which means at 6000 rpm each tube is dealing with a fundamental frequency of 100 Hz. Now if you put both exhausts into the same tube then the fundamental exhaust pulse frequency is 200HZ. That reduces the length of the tube requirement somewhat, it should halve the length required. I believe (have not done the calculations) that if you put both exhaust into the same tube that you may find 24" is sufficient to get some good noise reduction. However, in order to handle double the exhaust gas flow that putting both exhaust ports into one tube, you might find that a 2"DIA tube might be on the small size. I would probably think about at least a 2 1/2" perhaps 3" dia tube. Unfortunately, I had little success in finding 3" dia SS discs at least .062 thick. So I did not go down the 3" path. I did a number of calculations of wave length of the fundamental frequency from 1500 rpm to 6000 rpm and from that calculated the 1/4 wave lengths of the sound wave (which I calculated the wave was traveling at 2400 feet/sec due to the very high temps in the exhaust). I also calculated the lengths for the 2nd through 6 harmonic for each rpm. I then looked at what lengths occurred most frequently in those calculations. I picked those lengths that occurred most frequently (in some cases for example a 2nd harmonic length at one rpm was the same as a 4th harmonic length at another rpm). That way my hope was I would have the few trap lengths I could fit in that 48" capable of providing some attenuation at more than one frequency (and some cases as many 4). Sorry, if this is as clear as mud. It may be that the dimension between discs are not all that critical - but that is the way I went about it and the reasons why. My theory could be all wet - but the results are encouraging in any case. Hope it helps. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Downing" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:31 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Muffler design > Ed; In lay terms, is there some reason for the 4' of length? I only have > 22" of metal on the bottom of the boot cowl before the fabric starts on the > Tailwind. I'm looking to reduce the noise, but I don't necessary need a > flaming turkey. From the farm. JohnD > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 10/22/04 > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >