Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 451901 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:07:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from ms-mss-03-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.84]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i94D7H4I011775 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I5200M1G9S5BC@ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.10.1.25] (Forwarded-For: [143.209.73.14]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:07:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:07:17 -0400 From: echristley@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B pictures To: Rotary motors in aircraft Reply-to: echristley@nc.rr.com Message-id: <3342da32f441.32f4413342da@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1VbuAj/4uS1GNpB3oth10A)" Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_1VbuAj/4uS1GNpB3oth10A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Kelly, How much does your total gear setup weigh (engine forward). My bellhousing and PSRU together weigh in at a whopping 65lbs. I'm trying to decide if that is reasonalbe or ridiculous. --Boundary_(ID_1VbuAj/4uS1GNpB3oth10A) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_o6ppBzwWyMpJdi/T9rVyKw)" --Boundary_(ID_o6ppBzwWyMpJdi/T9rVyKw) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Marc, First let me clarify that I am not using my 13B Cosmo engine at this time. I am using an 1988, 6 port 13B. My 2nd generation auto trans bell housing is 7.190 inches deep + .510 inch mount plate (between eng. & bell housing) + .400 inch RD1C adapter plate = 8.100 inches. Tracy's plate is 3.550 inches from engine. 8.100" - 3.550"= 4.55". My input shaft should be 4.55 inches longer than Tracy's standard RD1C shaft. Also the drive splines of my shaft will be .500 inch farther out from the excentric shaft because for proper starter gear meshing the flex-plate has a .500 inch spacer between it and the counterweight to compensate for the .510 inch mount plate. -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from "Marc Wiese" : -------------- Kelly, What is the depth of the FC bellhousing and what thickness adaptor plate on the front of it did you use? Also what did your dimensions for the shaft come out to? Here is a mock up of mine. Computer disk failure lost all my other newer pics. -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:10 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B pictures Marc, Have you talked to Tracy about your extended input shaft yet? I have already sent him the dimensions for my extended shaft. I am using a 2nd generation (86-91) auto transmission bell housing for my engine. Your input shaft will be shorter than mine I have a 13B Cosmo and know what you are up against. I have talked to Bulent about his Cosmo conversion but do not know all the details. Attached is jpeg of my eng. Best Regards -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from "Marc Wiese" : -------------- > > I ran across these nice 20B pics in my archive and thought you all might > appreciate them. Needless to say, the 20B I have does not look this > nice! I'm trying to get an adaptor made for the flexplate (the 20B one > meshes with a reduction side mounted starter that I am going to retain > as well as the stock bellhousing). I will also need an extended shaft to > mesh with Tracy's gearbox. Bulent is doing a similar thing with a cosmo > engine (same arrangements as 20B, as are all the 13Brewtt (1993-1995) > auto transmission engines. --Boundary_(ID_o6ppBzwWyMpJdi/T9rVyKw) Content-type: text/html Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Marc,

    First let me clarify that I am not using my 13B Cosmo engine at this

time. I am using an 1988, 6 port 13B. My 2nd generation auto trans

bell housing is 7.190 inches deep + .510 inch mount plate (between

eng. & bell housing) + .400 inch RD1C adapter plate = 8.100 inches.

   Tracy's plate is 3.550 inches from engine. 8.100" - 3.550"= 4.55".

My input shaft should be 4.55 inches longer than  Tracy's standard

RD1C shaft. Also the drive splines of my shaft will be .500 inch

farther out from the excentric shaft because for proper starter gear

meshing the flex-plate has a .500 inch spacer between it and the

counterweight to compensate for the .510 inch mount plate.

--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from "Marc Wiese" : --------------

Kelly,

What is the depth of the FC bellhousing and what thickness adaptor plate on the front of it did you use? Also what did your dimensions for the shaft come out to? Here is a mock up of mine. Computer disk failure lost all my other newer pics.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:10 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B pictures

 

Marc,

 

   Have you talked to Tracy about your extended input shaft yet? I

have already sent him the dimensions for my extended shaft. I am

using a 2nd generation (86-91) auto transmission bell housing for

my engine. Your input shaft will be shorter than mine I have a 13B

Cosmo and know what you are up against. I have talked to Bulent

about his Cosmo conversion but do not know all the details.

    Attached is jpeg of my eng.

 

Best Regards

--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2

-------------- Original message from "Marc Wiese" : --------------

>
> I ran across these nice 20B pics in my archive and thought you all might
> appreciate them. Needless to say, the 20B I have does not look this
> nice! I'm trying to get an adaptor made for the flexplate (the 20B one
> meshes with a reduction side mounted starter that I am going to retain
> as well as the stock bellhousing). I will also need an extended shaft to
> mesh with Tracy's gearbox. Bulent is doing a similar thing with a cosmo
> engine (same arrangements as 20B, as are all the 13Brewtt (1993-1995)
> auto transmission engines.

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