Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 451524 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:20:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i940K9ZU023838 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 20:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002901c4a8e7$2f23bec0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MAP pulses (20B) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:20:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Gietzen [SMTP:ALVentures@cox.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 1:39 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MAP pulses (20B) > > << File: ATT00007.htm >> What surprised me was that with the engine running at 2000, the pointer was > swinging very rapidly over a range of over a pretty wide range; from about > 27 to 37 psi. It is an undamped bourdon-tube gauge, responding to a lot of > pulsing. I had no pulse filtering between the manifold and the fuel > pressure regulator. > > Was the engine running smoothly at 2000? Did all the improvements you made > actually allow you to run a smooth idle down around 1000 or so? > > Yes it was; so I can't say the pulsing in the fuel pressure was interfering > with the operation at lower rpm; it was, at the least, indicative of uneven > MAP and likely very hard on the FP regulator. I haven't run lower than > about 1500 yet since that is where the idle stop is set; and I am pursuing > other issues. But it does now run smoothly at that speed - secondary > injectors only. The other issues are that the "staging" is not working; it > does not run completely smoothly with both sets on; less smooth on primary > only; and very smooth with secondary only (primary turned off). If you can > figure those things out for me, you win the cigar. Still waiting on a new > chip for the EM2, but the next time I run I'll slow it down further. > > Al > Al, here's one possibility that you might considered 1. A problem in the EC2 sensing manifold pressure being sensed. In other words, it is "staged" all the time which if the case would of course provide too much fuel at the lower rpms with all 4 injectors on. Switching off the primaries then "destages" the circuit and you get a smooth idle at lower rpm. Could be the MAP sensor or your manifold pressure sensing hose. 2. Have you tried the "B" controller? same results or different? If it were the A controller MAP sensor or its sensing hosing then switching to "B:" should cause it to run smoother. 3. Primary injectors could be leaking - but, if it were truly leaking then I wouldn't think turning off the primary would stop the leak. The fact that it is running well on the secondaries but runs worst when both are on ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >