Return-Path: Received: from goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.18] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 386737 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:04:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.217.120.18; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from user-0cetjkt.cable.mindspring.com ([24.238.206.157] helo=earthlink.net) by goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1C2B71-0005d4-00 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:03:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4134A086.7000307@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:00:06 -0500 From: David Staten Reply-To: Dastaten@earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Engines for sale References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only benefit that I see to the Mistral PSRU is that it has a takeoff for a prop governor and a hollow propshaft/flange to deliver pressurized oil to a CS prop... Is it worth 6k? Probably not... For the cost of buying that PRSU AND a hydraulic CS prop I should be able to simply buy an electric MT constant speed setup.

Dave Staten

jesse farr wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: <echristley@nc.rr.com>

John Dyke got a deal for Delta builders for one of
the Lyc knockoffs.  XPO, I think, is the name of the
company.  A brand new IO-360 for $16,500.
Mistral's website glosses over the cooling issue and
doesn't even mention the need to add two-cycle oil
or how they're going to oil the housing.
You can pay an exhobitant price and pick the
problems that everyone has learned to live with.
You just bolt the engine to the place that was
designed for it. OR you can pay a ridiculous price
and deal with brand new issues that'll require you
learn some aerodynamic and mechanical engineering.
Except for a few extremely rich folks, the people
who would deal with all the issues would most likely
not blink at rebuilding a junkyard block or two.  If
you're going to have to get your hands dirty anyway,
you might as well save $20K or so.

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I talked with a fellow yesterday who was telling me how he had given up on
the mazda engine dream, as he had come to the conclusion he was going to
spend more making it quick, easy starting, running, properly geared and
cooling and sufficiently reliable than he could buy a turbine for.  I told
him 'lotsa luck' and when he or anyone else got that bargain turbine let me
know because I not only would admit to being wrong but would run right down
and buy one.

I got mazda rotary engines in my garage, in various states of
disassembly/repair; and, I got mazdas in my bone yard; but, he ain't got no
turbines, turbine containing craft or any readily and cheaply available that
I see. I still thing we rotary thinking people are the way to go at this
place in time.

jesse farr, soddy tn USA (just north of chattanooga)

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