Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 386398 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:59:35 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from ms-mss-03-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.84]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i7VCu2SG012147 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I3B00E6AALE68@ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.10.1.21] (Forwarded-For: [143.209.73.14]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:56:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:56:02 -0400 From: echristley@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Engines for sale To: Rotary motors in aircraft Reply-to: echristley@nc.rr.com Message-id: <321b54a3218f87.3218f87321b54a@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine ----- Original Message ----- From: John Slade Date: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:21 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Engines for sale > Message > wondering if Mistral ever consulted any marketing people > I think you'll find that Mistral is targeting the certified market. No > intelligent businessman would target us. :) > > They have a better product with a 50% higher (proposed) TBO and > (probably)lower maintenance costs. They don't need to undercut > Lycoming, and probably > shouldn't go that route. It'll take time, but if they prove and > certifytheir product, and have the financing to stay the course, > they could do well > with the current pricing. > John > > John Dyke got a deal for Delta builders for one of the Lyc knockoffs. XPO, I think, is the name of the company. A brand new IO-360 for $16,500. I have doubts that he is the only designer that was offered this deal. Mistral's website glosses over the cooling issue and doesn't even mention the need to add two-cycle oil or how they're going to oil the housing. You can pay an exhobitant price and pick the problems that everyone has learned to live with. You just bolt the engine to the place that was designed for it. OR you can pay a ridiculous price and deal with brand new issues that'll require you learn some aerodynamic and mechanical engineering. Except for a few extremely rich folks, the people who would deal with all the issues would most likely not blink at rebuilding a junkyard block or two. If you're going to have to get your hands dirty anyway, you might as well save $20K or so. Now if Mistral could put their engine on a couple Reno racers and win a few like Mazda has done in the cars they might see a few converts.