Return-Path: Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 386012 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:50:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.69; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from Carol ([209.214.45.7]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040831025013.MTDI1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@Carol> for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:50:13 -0400 Message-ID: <00ea01c48f05$377995a0$072dd6d1@Carol> From: "paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Engines for sale Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:50:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C48EDB.4DF59A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C48EDB.4DF59A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageI also wish them luck.....Mistral hopes to have their engine = certified. Should that happen, it could certaintly compete with the = Lycoming. My problem is that I have heard so many horror stories of = people laying down their hard earned cash for an engine that is "soon to = be released", and getting nothing. ATP turbine is the latest. A couple = of Velocity builders got burned bad. One builder put 15 thousand dollars = down toward the 300 horsepower version of the ATP turbine, and when the = delivery date came, he found that the 15thousand deposit (that was = supposed to go into an escrow account) had been spent, and they are not = going to produce the 300 hp version. Sorry, no refunds are available. I need to see more satisfied customers before I put a deposit = down on an engine that will be available in the near future. I like = cash and carry. Just my opinion. Paul Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:09 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Engines for sale I wish them luck, but I'll be surprised if they sell too many engines = at those prices. I was critical of Powersports for pricing their engine = at $20+k, because it was the same price as a new Lycoming at the time. = Eventually, if the engine is proven to be everything they claim, = particularly wrt the 3000 hour TBO, they might sway some Ly-Cont = followers. =20 FWIW, someone was just telling me about Innodyn turbines = (http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html ). I think I'd probably = spend my $35k on one of those (if I had $35K to spend on a new engine). Rusty (wondering if Mistral ever consulted any marketing people) ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C48EDB.4DF59A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I also wish them luck.....Mistral hopes = to have=20 their engine certified. Should that happen, it could certaintly compete = with the=20 Lycoming.  My problem is that I have heard so many horror stories = of people=20 laying down their hard earned cash for an engine that is "soon to be = released",=20 and getting nothing.  ATP turbine is the latest.  A couple of = Velocity=20 builders got burned bad. One builder put 15 thousand dollars down toward = the 300=20 horsepower version of the ATP turbine, and when the delivery date came, = he found=20 that the 15thousand deposit (that was supposed to go into an escrow = account) had=20 been spent, and they are not going to produce the 300 hp version.  = Sorry,=20 no refunds are available.
         I=20 need to see more satisfied customers before I put a deposit down on an = engine=20 that will be available in the near future.  I like cash and = carry. =20 Just my opinion.  Paul Conner
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From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 = 8:09=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mistral Engines=20 for sale

I wish them=20 luck, but I'll be surprised if they sell too many engines at those=20 prices.  I was critical of Powersports for pricing their = engine at=20 $20+k, because it was the same price as a new Lycoming at the = time. =20 Eventually, if the engine is proven to be everything they claim, = particularly=20 wrt the 3000 hour TBO,  they might sway some Ly-Cont=20 followers. 
 
FWIW,=20 someone was just telling me about Innodyn turbines (http://www.innodyn= .com/aviation/products.html ). =20 I think I'd probably spend my $35k on one of those (if I had $35K to = spend on=20 a new engine).
 
Rusty=20 (wondering if Mistral ever consulted any marketing=20 people)
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