Return-Path: Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 385934 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:11:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.71; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from Carol ([209.214.45.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040831021027.MFLW1796.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@Carol> for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01c48eff$9e1d1fd0$072dd6d1@Carol> From: "paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling Setup Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:09:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C48ED5.B46E1CF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C48ED5.B46E1CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageBrilliant, Joe....Brilliant. There is such a wealth of good = knowlege on this forum. Thanks for the picture and the idea. Paul = Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe Hull=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling Setup Paul- If you're looking for a new home for your PSRU oil drain; I found it = was really easy to drill through one of the engine mount holes on the = plugs side for my oil return. The existing stud hole sizes are just shy = of the =BC NPT we need and the holes are above the oil level. I put my = return into the bottom-rear hole (see picture).=20 =20 This of course assumes you aren't using the engine mount area for = something strange.like your engine mount ;-) =20 Joe Hull Cozy MkIV #991 (working on Engine & Electrical & Finishing) http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/JoeHull/index.html =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of paul Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling Setup =20 Hey, Steve....thanks for the pictures. Since I already have the = aluminum plate covering the oil metering pump, it would be easy to drill = and tap that. After hearing what Rusty had to say, I'm not sure if I = might be better off leaving it as is.....Need to ponder this one. = Thanks for taking the time to share your pictures, and I hope your = cooling temps get under control so you can just go fly and enjoy the = fruits of your labor. Paul Conner, 13b powered SQ2000 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling = Setup =20 Here are a couple of photos of mine. =20 =20 Steve Brooks =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:30 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling = Setup =20 Hi, Rusty....My 13b has an aluminum plate covering the old injection = pump location. Do I just drill and tap for an NPT fitting in the plate = covering the old pump?=20 =20 Ooops, I just remembered that I'm actually returning to the turbo = oil drain location on the front cover, and not the injector pump = location. When I took the turbo off, I just made an aluminum cover = plate with a hole tapped for 1/4" NPT. =20 =20 You don't by chance have an old picture lying around that shows = your plate and/or fitting going into the engine do you?=20 =20 Amazingly, I don't have a picture that shows it. =20 =20 My return line presently goes to the oil pan, but to drain the oil, = I have to first remove the PSRU drain line. It would be better to run it = to the oil oil injection location. Thanks for the info. Paul Conner=20 =20 I ran my oil drain to the oil pan plug location on the original = engine. This violates the rule of returning oil below the level of oil = in the pan, but it worked fine. Having to remove the PSRU drain line to = drain the oil was the best part of that system. I left the line free, = so I could remove it at the redrive, then lower it toward my catch pan = to drain the oil. It was totally mess-free. I miss that now, = especially when I have to drain a little oil to make up for the pre-mix = scavenging. =20 Rusty =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C48ED5.B46E1CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Brilliant, Joe....Brilliant.  = There is such a=20 wealth of good knowlege on this forum. Thanks for the picture and the=20 idea.  Paul Conner
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe Hull=20
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 = 11:03=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = redrive oil=20 return, was Re: New Cooling Setup

Paul-

If you=92re = looking for=20 a new home for your PSRU oil drain; I found it was really easy to = drill=20 through one of the engine mount holes on the plugs side for my oil=20 return.  The existing stud hole sizes are just shy of the =BC NPT = we need=20 and the holes are above the oil level.  I put my return into the=20 bottom-rear hole (see picture).

 

This of = course=20 assumes you aren=92t using the engine mount area for something = strange=85like your=20 engine mount ;-)

 

Joe=20 Hull

Cozy MkIV = #991=20 (working on Engine & Electrical & = Finishing)

ht= tp://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/JoeHull/index.html

 

From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of paul
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 = 7:23=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling=20 Setup

 

Hey, Steve....thanks for = the=20 pictures.  Since I already have the aluminum plate covering the = oil=20 metering pump, it would be easy to drill and tap that.  After = hearing=20 what Rusty had to say, I'm not sure if I might be better off leaving = it as=20 is.....Need to ponder this one.  Thanks for taking the time to = share your=20 pictures, and I hope your cooling temps get under control so you can = just go=20 fly and enjoy the fruits of your labor.  Paul Conner, 13b powered = SQ2000

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Steve = Brooks=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 August 29, 2004 10:17 AM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling=20 Setup

 

Here are a couple of photos = of=20 mine.  

 

Steve=20 Brooks

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Russell = Duffy
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 = 10:30=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: redrive oil return, was Re: New Cooling=20 Setup

 

Hi, Rusty....My=20 13b has an aluminum plate covering the old injection pump location. = Do I=20 just drill and tap for an NPT fitting in the plate covering the old=20 pump? 

 

Ooops, I just remembered that = I'm=20 actually returning to the turbo oil drain location on the front = cover,=20 and not the injector pump location.  When I took the turbo = off, I=20 just made an aluminum cover plate with a hole tapped for 1/4"=20 NPT.   

 

 You don't=20 by chance have an old picture lying around that shows your plate = and/or=20 fitting going into the engine do you? 

 

Amazingly, I don't have a = picture that=20 shows it.      

 

 My return=20 line presently goes to the oil pan, but to drain the oil, I have to = first=20 remove the PSRU drain line. It would be better to run it to the oil = oil=20 injection location.  Thanks for the info.  Paul=20 Conner 

 

I=20 ran my oil drain to the oil pan plug location on the original=20 engine.  This violates the rule of returning oil below the = level of oil=20 in the pan, but it worked fine.  Having to remove the PSRU = drain line=20 to drain the oil was the best part of that system.  I left the = line=20 free, so I could remove it at the redrive, then lower it toward my = catch pan=20 to drain the oil.  It was totally mess-free.  I miss that = now,=20 especially when I have to drain a little oil to make up for the = pre-mix=20 scavenging.

 

Rusty

   

 

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