Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 384071 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:27:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from Carol ([216.78.114.48]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040830022632.RZWY1789.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@Carol> for ; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:26:32 -0400 Message-ID: <003701c48e38$be73f640$30724ed8@Carol> From: "paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine run - Good news/bad news Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:26:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C48E0E.D3581CF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C48E0E.D3581CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:24 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine run - Good news/bad news 2. The joy was short-lived because it was only a one minute run = while I had the redrive drain line disconnected. Taking the drain line = off gave the first clue. No sign that a drop of oil had ever been = there. The amount of oil in the container after the run - zippo; not a = drop. I took off the feed line and there was oil sitting in the = fitting. Feeding to a container, I ran again for less than 30 seconds, = and sent more than a pint into the container. Complete blockage inside = the drive. The prospect of removing the prop, drive and disassembly is = not a happy one.=20 =20 Al, something you might try before taking the gearbox off (a pain to = say the least). Its been know for such stuff as the silicon grey = sealant to plug up the drains. Yes, unlikely that it would have plugged = up the front one. But, short of taking off the gear box you might try = removing the drain fittings - just in the remote chance they could be = plugged. Ed With two exits and 100 psi oil; my guess is it's highly unlikely = that the explanation is 'foreign matter'. I think there is no oil going = into the drive. It appears to me from the diagram that the oil goes in = through a bushing via a hole and/or groove. Most likely a misalignment = there giving the oil nowhere to go. I'll check further later today. Al Hi, Al.....do you have a small restrictor in your feed line, = something like .030 or .040 thousandths? If so, is it possible that = might be obstructed? A simple test would be to disconnect the feed = line, turn the engine over and see if in fact oil is even trying to get = into the PRSU. You've probably already thought of this, but just in = case..... take care and good luck on the troubleshooting. Paul Conner ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C48E0E.D3581CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 = 10:24=20 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine = run -=20 Good news/bad news

2.=20 The joy was = short-lived=20 because it was only a one minute run while I had the redrive drain = line=20 disconnected. Taking the drain line off gave the first = clue. No=20 sign that a drop of oil had ever been there. The amount of oil = in the=20 container after the run =96 zippo; not a drop. I took off the = feed line=20 and there was oil sitting in the fitting. Feeding to a = container, I=20 ran again for less than 30 seconds, and sent more than a pint into = the=20 container. Complete blockage inside the drive. The = prospect of=20 removing the prop, drive and disassembly is not a happy = one.=20

Al,=20 something you might try before taking the gearbox off (a pain to say = the=20 least). Its been know for such stuff as the silicon grey = sealant to=20 plug up the drains. Yes, unlikely that it would have plugged = up the=20 front one. But, short of taking off the gear box you might try = removing the drain fittings - just in the remote chance they could = be=20 plugged.

Ed

With two exits and 100 psi = oil; my=20 guess is it=92s highly unlikely that the explanation is =91foreign=20 matter=92. I think there is no oil going into the drive. = It=20 appears to me from the diagram that the oil goes in through a = bushing via a=20 hole and/or groove. Most likely a misalignment there giving = the oil=20 nowhere to go. I=92ll check further later = today.

Al

Hi, = Al.....do you=20 have a small restrictor in your feed line, something like .030 or = .040=20 thousandths? If so, is it possible that might be=20 obstructed? A simple test would be to disconnect the = feed line,=20 turn the engine over and see if in fact oil is even trying to get = into the=20 PRSU. You've probably already thought of this, but just in=20 case..... take care and good luck on the = troubleshooting. =20 Paul Conner

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