Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #10748
From: kevin lane <n3773@comcast.net>
Subject: more myths questioned!
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:01:42 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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OK, without stirring up a hornets nest-- could I safely run a rigid oil line to the redrive and back if both ends were rigidly engine mounted?  I would make sure there are bends in it for flex and well supported.  I have rigid brake lines on my -6a, with a 360 degree loop at the end, although admittedly, had one end crack, but I believe that was from a combination of multiple removals and later learning that my hangar partner's flange tool was actually automotive, not aviation. I've had no problems on my Lycoming otherwise with rigid lines.  I know some guys run flex lines everywhere, which seems heavy and expensive.
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
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----- Original Message -----
From: paul
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sorry Rusty - no bind

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sorry Rusty - no bind

please don't take this as being critical, I'm just asking - is it true or not that engine fittings should be steel, not aluminum?  or is that just a myth? does aluminum fatigue faster than steel?  what do certified piston planes use?
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
 
 
This is sort of a controversial subject.  There is probably an official FAA rule, or at least rule of thumb about only using steel fittings when there's relative motion on the two ends of a hose.  Of course screwing steel fittings, into an aluminum gear drive would also violate some dissimilar metal rules, so damned if you do, damned if you don't. 
 
Since I was schooled at the Van's Aircraft institute, I follow the more common sense rules.  If it's a small fitting, that isn't very strong, it's best to use steel.  If it's a fairly large fitting, then aluminum is plenty strong.  AN-6 is about the dividing line, and it comes down to whether there's much motion.  In the case of the drain fitting you see in the pic, there's no relative motion, so I feel aluminum is fine.  
 
Cheers,
Rusty (not an A&P, and don't even play one on TV)  
 
This topic was recently discussed on the canard aviator's website....seems that Lycoming is sending their brand new engines with aluminum fittings.  I agree, however that there is comfort in using steel for the smaller (-4) sizes.  I have -16 aluminum AN fittings for my radiator hoses, and it would take a sledgehammer to damage one of those aluminum fittings. The general consensus on the canard site was similar....steel for the smaller fittings, but aluminum was fine for -6 sizes and larger.  I guess they figure that if Lycoming can supply a certified engine with aluminum fittings, it's OK on our experimentals.  FWIW.  Paul Conner
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