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From: "Michael Haynes" <mickandfi@ihug.com.au>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: oil metering pump
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:14:32 +1000
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Dave
 Fitting of the adaptor couldn't be easier. when you place your order make
sure you get the correct one for your model engine. The electric metering
pump is mounted with three bolts and I believe the earlier version use two.
I made the mistake but was able to adapt the earlier mod adaptor to fit the
electric metering pump. I think if you go to Tracy's web site he has pics of
the adaptors.
 For those interested I downloaded the engine, lubrication, cooling,
technical manuals from   www.teamfc3s.org  They are for na and turbo 13b.
 Cheers
 Mick
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Staten" <Dastaten@earthlink.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: oil metering pump


> I recieved a private response with a picture of the "add on" pump shaft
> extension (with separate oil intake) and a contact email for the maker.
> I've already made email contact with the maker of that device, PCV
> Technologies..
>
> I never did get a batch mail copy of the thread, and I dont know how
> easy/difficult/involved that is going to be. I am actively tearing down
> a 13B core at the present time. It's actually one of THREE I snagged off
> Ebay last week for a pretty decent price (if they all end up
> working/being workable). I just went back out and looked at the cores,
> and NONE of them have the actual oil injector pump attached to them.
>
> Is there any reason that I wouldnt be able to put an older mechanically
> controlled pump on a newer gen engine (provided the device from PCV is
> in the assembly to serve as the metering pumps mounting surface and oil
> intake source?
>
> I am definitely looking forward to picking some of the brains on this
> group/listserv.... so much more QUALITY of information than
> rec.aviation.homebuilt... nice guys over there.. but the technical level
> of information here is outstanding... whats funny is, even though I
> never had a science major degree, I took a lot of science major
> courses.. the numbers/math in some of the other threads is bringing back
> memories (not all of em pleasant, either) but at least I'm keeping up.
>
> Thanks and looking forward to feedback.
> Dave
> partner in Velocity 17010 (reserved)
>
> Kelly Troyer wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> >   Do not know if you ever received answer to your question. Metering
> > pump is gear driven by the
> >
> > eccentric shaft.The flow rate is  controlled by a mechanical link to
> > the throttlebody on all rotorys
> >
> > through 1988. From 1989 on the flow rate is controlled by an electric
> > motor on the metering pump
> >
> > that is controlled by the EFI/IGN computer(ECU). Most of those flying
> > are using the early pump
> >
> > and have a manually adjusted flow rate. Mick (downunder) is the first
> > that I am aware of to modify
> >
> > an electric pump for a manual adjustment. FWIW
> >
> > --
> > Kelly Troyer
> > Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     -------------- Original message from David Staten : --------------
> >
> >     > I'm a newbie here, but would someone mind sending me the
> >     thread/group on
> >     > the oil metering pump in private email? I am assuming that this
> >     is the
> >     > external oil pump used for the oil injectors. If I am mistaken
> >     please
> >     > set me straight. Also, with the oil injectors, arent the stock oil
> >     > injectors powered by the air pump?... which I dont believe I see
> >     on the
> >     > engine picture attached...
> >     >
> >     > Trying to learn this quickly, as I am in the process of tearing
> >     down a
> >     > 13B over the weekend... its not 100% clear from the Haynes manual,
> >     > Bruce's video or Tracy's newsletter (Tracy advocates just mising
> >     oil in
> >     > the gas tank, right?)
> >     >
> >     > Dave
> >     > Dastaten@earthlink.net
> >     >
> >     > Kelly Troyer wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > Mick,
> >     > >
> >     > > I believe you are the first (that I know about) to modify the
> >     elect
> >     > > pump....Most
> >     > >
> >     > > using a pump have the early mechanical one. Looks good!
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > Best Regards,
> >     > >
> >     > > --
> >     > > Kelly Troyer
> >     > > Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > -------------- Original message from michael haynes :
> >     --------------
> >     > >
> >     > > > Hi all
> >     > > > Congrates Todd. The hard work starts now!
> >     > > > Just wanted to post this pic of my engine. bit hard to see
> >     the oil
> >     > > > metering pump. I just removed the electric motor and replaced
> >     > > with a plate,
> >     > > > tapped a
> >     > > > 10-32 bolt to adjust flow rate. Has anyone tried this?
> >     Cheers Mick
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
>
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> >
> >     > >
> >     > > Subject:
> >     > > [FlyRotary] oil metering pump
> >     > > From:
> >     > > michael haynes
> >     > > Date:
> >     > > Mon, 9 Aug 2004 03:18:28 +0000
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