Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 365240 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:36:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from EDWARD (cpe-069-132-183-211.carolina.rr.com [69.132.183.211]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i7F3aQSH010856 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501c48279$100a9840$2402a8c0@EDWARD> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Ed's nightmare Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:36:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48257.88ACAD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48257.88ACAD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageArrggg! Not good news! Have not yet tried to fit the new shaft = into the splines - its going to be even more of task to removing my = mounting plate as it is integrated with my front motor mount. Where did = I put that sand paper?? You're right no - new dampener plate. Lap the splines? Was it the = outside diameter that was too large or the teeth? If the Out side = diameter then lapping it might be the route to go for me - if you mean = each individual spline then - I think I want my B drive back (not - = really). =20 Well, I was going to wait until next weekend to get started, but now I = have to run out to the hanger during the week to see if the drive shaft = will fit. Thanks for the heads-up, Rusty Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Ed's nightmare Greetings, I had a pretty productive day at the Rev-3 work session. The main = thing remaining is the spinner cutouts, which will be a new experience = for me, since I've somehow managed to always have spinners that were = pre-cut. Man that's one serious looking prop :-) Ed, I either lost a few hours to you, or gained a few days (or more). = My plan was to replace only the drive, and not remove the plate or = anything else. Unfortunately, my new input shaft wouldn't fit in the = old dampener splines. It was just too tight to try to make it go. Sure = enough, the old input shaft was a fairly loose fit in the new dampener = plate, so there is a difference. I ended up having to drain the cooling = system, remove the rads, remove the plate, and replace the dampener = plate. This was only a couple hour delay for me, but if your new input = shaft doesn't fit your old dampener plate, you're screwed, since you = don't have a new dampener plate. =20 I called Tracy, and he said Ford wasn't all that precise over the = years, and that it sounded like my old plate was on the tight side, and = the new plate was more normal. He chose to make the C drive input = shafts a snug fit, so it just won't work with my old dampener plate. I = hope you have better luck. He said it was possible to lap the splines = to fit, but wouldn't be worth the trouble for me, since I already had a = new one to install. The old one, being tight, is a better fit for my = old B drive anyway, so they might as well stay together. The B drive is = going to be for sale, BTW. =20 Cheers, Rusty (should be running, if not flying by Monday) ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48257.88ACAD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Arrggg!  Not good news!  Have = not yet=20 tried to fit the new shaft into the splines - its going to be even more = of task=20 to removing my mounting plate as it is integrated with my front motor=20 mount.  Where did I put that sand paper??
 
You're right no -  new dampener = plate. =20 Lap the splines?  Was it the outside diameter that was too large or = the=20 teeth?  If the Out side diameter then lapping it might be the route = to go=20 for me - if you mean each individual spline then -  I think I = want my=20 B drive back (not - really). 
 
Well, I was going to wait until next = weekend to get=20 started, but now I have to run out to the hanger during the week to see = if the=20 drive shaft will fit.  Thanks for the heads-up, Rusty
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 = 11:09=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Ed's = nightmare

Greetings,
 
I had a = pretty productive=20 day at the Rev-3 work session.  The main thing remaining is = the=20 spinner cutouts, which will be a new experience for me, since I've = somehow=20 managed to always have spinners that were pre-cut.  Man that's = one=20 serious looking prop :-)
 
Ed, I either = lost a few=20 hours to you, or gained a few days (or more).  My plan = was to=20 replace only the drive, and not remove the plate or anything = else. =20 Unfortunately, my new input shaft wouldn't fit in the old=20 dampener splines.  It was just too tight to try to make = it go.  Sure enough, the old input shaft was a fairly loose = fit in=20 the new dampener plate, so there is a difference.  I ended up=20 having to drain the cooling system, remove the rads, remove = the=20 plate, and replace the dampener plate.  This was only a couple = hour delay=20 for me, but if your new input shaft doesn't fit your old = dampener plate,=20 you're screwed, since you don't have a new dampener plate. =20
 
I called = Tracy, and=20 he said Ford wasn't all that precise over the years, and=20 that it sounded like my old plate was on the tight side, and the = new=20 plate was more normal.  He chose to make the C drive = input=20 shafts a snug fit, so it just won't work with my old dampener=20 plate.  I hope you have better = luck.  He said it=20 was possible to lap the splines to fit, but wouldn't be worth=20 the trouble for me, since I already had a new one to = install.  The=20 old one, being tight, is a better fit for my old B drive anyway, = so they=20 might as well stay together.  The B drive is going to be for = sale,=20 BTW.  
 
Cheers,
Rusty (should = be running,=20 if not flying by = Monday) 
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