Return-Path: Received: from mail.viclink.com ([66.129.220.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 364410 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:56:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.129.220.6; envelope-from=pjmick@mail.viclink.com Received: from mail.viclink.com (p091.AS1.viclink.com [66.129.192.91]) by mail.viclink.com (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i7E4tu362873 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <411D9AC7.5080900@mail.viclink.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:53:27 -0700 From: Perry Mick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: [Q-LIST] Fw: NBC employees try to get helicopter from St. Louis Downtown Airport & go to jail in the effort.... References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030108090606030306090309" X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030217) (mail.viclink.com) --------------030108090606030306090309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read about this on AOPA. Since the men were "middle eastern", I figure if it airs they will play it as a "racial profiling" story. Michael D. Callahan wrote: >This was posted to our Quickie Builders group this afternoon. Let's forward >this to any FBOs, flying schools, airport managers and everybody else you >can think of. As the writer correctly states, since NBC was caught with >their pants down, we'll hear nothing about this on the evening news. If they >had gotten away with it, General Aviation would have been slammed again. >Mike C. > > > >>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:14 AM >>Subject: NBC employees try to get helicopter from St. Louis Downtown >> >> >Airport > > >>& go to jail in the effort.... >> >> >> >> >>>This news blip brought to us from Ron Buswell. >>> >>> >>> >>>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Aero-News Network "Propwash" E-Mail Aero-News Summary >>>>A Free E-Mail Newsletter ISSN: >>>>08.13.04 Issue 56/13 >>>>For Subscribe/Unsubscribe procedures: >>>>http://www.aero-news.net/subscribe.cfm >>>> >>>>For Subscribe/Unsubscribe procedures and Privacy Statement, scroll to >>>>end. >>>> >>>>Aero-News Alert: Non-Aviation Media Trying To Discredit GA >>>>American Association of Airport Executives issues alert, >>>>reports NBC trying to set up GA facilities and FBO's >>>> >>>>Rebecca Morrison, Staff Vice President, Transportation Security >>>>Policy Department at the American Association of Airport >>>>Executives, has transmitted the following memo and requested widest >>>>possible distribution: >>>> >>>>The following is a >>>>description of an incident that occurred today (11 Aug) at the >>>>St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are >>>>sharing this story with you as there are indications that it might >>>>be repeated throughout the country. We would like to thank >>>>Bob McDaniel, the Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for >>>>sharing the details of the incident outlined below. >>>> >>>>Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate >>>>our security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and >>>>asked about a charter flight. After discussion of price and >>>>directions to the business, they arrived an hour later. When >>>>the office agent asked how they were going to pay for the flight >>>>they produced cash. When asked for ID, they produced >>>>driver's licenses from two different states and they were >>>>driving a car licensed in a third state. >>>> >>>>Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them >>>>into the hangar to see the aircraft while the office person called >>>>the FBI and local police. The helicopter they were going to >>>>fly was blocked in by other aircraft so the mechanic was able to >>>>stall them by having to slowly shuffle the blocking planes. >>>>Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks and odd-shaped luggage >>>>out of their car. Soon the local police arrived and they were >>>>hauled off to jail in handcuffs. >>>> >>>>After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the >>>>two men were employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get >>>>a story of how easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist >>>>attack. The men had stayed in a local hotel and purchased box >>>>cutters, leather-man knives, and other potential weapons at the >>>>local Wal-Mart using a credit card. The box cutters had been >>>>hidden in the lining at the bottom of the back packs and the other >>>>weapons were hidden throughout their baggage. They had >>>>audiotaped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were going to >>>>use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to get >>>>information and directions to the location of the helicopter and >>>>then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack. >>>> >>>>I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a >>>>story that will never be seen since they were caught. A very >>>>"well-done" to my FBO and staff and the local FBI and >>>>police response forces. We have since learned that we were >>>>the first airport where this had been attempted and NBC planned to >>>>attempt similar penetration stories around the country. >>>>Please help me spread the word to other airports. >>>>FMI: www.airportnet.org/security >>>> >>>>For the WHOLE story, go to >>>> >>>> >http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=ff753694-4e36-4000-8b > > >>>50-29b7f1053b7f >>> >>> >>>> >>>>GAMA Praises Security Vigilance Of GA Operator >>>> >>>>It's nice to know the GA >>>>biz is keeping an eye out for the bad guys... even when the bad >>>>guys come from NBC News. GAMA has joined in the justifiable praise >>>>over the vigilance of a small general aviation aircraft operator >>>>who promptly identified and reported two suspicious individuals >>>>attempting to rent a general aviation aircraft. After arresting, >>>>interviewing and searching the individuals, law enforcement >>>>personnel determined they were actually NBC reporters attempting to >>>>generate a news story. >>>> >>>>"The general aviation community has always said that our >>>>nation's best defense against terrorism is a vigilant >>>>public," said Ed Bolen, GAMA President and CEO. >>>> >>>>The arrest of the news reporters follows the recent publication >>>>of The 9/11 Commission Report which documented how the general >>>>aviation community successfully identified and reported suspicious >>>>persons even prior to 9/11. >>>> >>>>"Although it is doubtful this story will make the evening >>>>news programs, today's incident is further indication that >>>>the general aviation community takes security seriously" said >>>>Bolen. >>>>FMI: www.GAMA.aero >>>> >>>>For the WHOLE story, go to >>>> >>>> >http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=e05e6fc3-6828-41d7-ba > > >>>c0-eecc2529d0ac >>> >>> >>>>Klyde Morris 08.13.04 >>>>Klyde Has A Few Things To Say About A Recent >>>>"Cat-astrophe" >>>>FMI: www.klydemorris.com >>>> >>>>For the WHOLE story, go to >>>> >>>> >http://www.aero-news.net/news/featurestories.cfm?ContentBlockID=9280628d-05c > > >>>b-4757-ab12-786bc6adaf0b >>> >>> >>>>NOTAM Number: FDC >>>>4/8406 >>>>Location: SIOUX CITY, Iowa >>>>Beginning Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at >>>>12:00 CDT) >>>>Ending Date: August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at 15:00 >>>>CDT) >>>>Reason for NOTAM: Temporary flight restrictions for national >>>>security >>>>Type: VIP >>>>Replaced NOTAM(s): N/A >>>>FAA Contact(Pilots): >>>>No Pilots May Operate An Aircraft in the Areas Covered by this >>>>NOTAM Except as Described. >>>> >>>>Affected Area(s) >>>> >>>>Inner Circle >>>>Airspace Definition: >>>>Circle Center: 6 nautical miles from SIOUX CITY VORTAC(SUX) >>>>on the 324 radial (Latitude: 4226'44"N, Longitude: >>>>9623'40"W) >>>>Radius: 10 nautical miles >>>>Altitude: From and including the surface up to 18000 >>>>feet >>>>Operating Restrictions and Requirements: >>>>Effective Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 >>>>at 12:00 CDT) - August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at >>>>15:00 CDT) >>>>Except as specified below and/or unless authorized by >>>>ATC: >>>>A. All aircraft operations within a 10 NMR area listed above >>>>are prohibited except for: >>>>1. Law enforcement and military aircraft, directly supporting >>>>the United States Secret Service (USSS) and the office of the >>>>president of the United States (POTUS), emergency medical flights, >>>>regularly scheduled commercial passenger and cargo aircraft that >>>>meet or exceed the TSAS domestic security inspection program >>>>standards and are arriving into and/or departing from 14 CFR Part >>>>139 airports. >>>>2. For operations within the TFR all medical flight operation >>>>companies shall coordinate with the USSS prior to this NOTAM going >>>>into effect to avoid potential delays. >>>> >>>> >>>>Outer Circle >>>>Airspace Definition: >>>>Circle Center: 6.8 nautical miles from SIOUX CITY VORTAC(SUX) >>>>on the 324 radial (Latitude: 4226'44"N, Longitude: >>>>9623'40"W) >>>>Radius: 30 nautical miles >>>>Altitude: From and including the surface up to 18000 >>>>feet >>>>Operating Restrictions and Requirements: >>>>Effective Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 >>>>at 12:00 CDT) - August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at >>>>15:00 CDT) >>>>B. Within the airspace between 10 NMR and 30 NMR listed >>>>above: >>>>1. All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR >>>>shall be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete code >>>>assigned by an Air Traffic Control (ATC) facility. Aircraft shall >>>>be squawking the discrete code prior to departure and at all times >>>>while in the TFR. >>>>2. All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR must >>>>remain in two-way radio communications with ATC. >>>>3. All aircraft operating within the 10 to 30 NM radius TFR >>>>and operating at altitudes of up to but not including FL180 are >>>>limited to aircraft arriving or departing local airfields and ATC >>>>may authorize transit operations. Aircraft may not >>>>loiter. >>>>4. Flight training, practice instrument approaches, aerobatic >>>>flight, glider operations, parachute operations, ultralight, hang >>>>gliding, balloon operations agriculture/crop dusting, animal >>>>population control flight operations, banner tosing operations, >>>>commercial cargo carrier operations that fail to meet or exceed the >>>>TSAS domestic security inspection program standards are not >>>>authorized. >>>>5. All U.S. Secret Service cleared aircraft operators based >>>>in the area should notify the US Secret Service prior to their >>>>departure. >>>>6. All medical flight operation companies shall coordinate >>>>with the USSS prior to this NOTAM going into effect to avoid >>>>potential delays when the NOTAM is in effect. >>>>C. It is recommended that all aircraft operators check NOTAMS >>>>frequently for possible required changes to this TFR prior to >>>>operations within this region. >>>> >>>>Other Information: >>>>ARTCC: ZMP >>>>Issue Date: August 12, 2004 at 16:52 UTC (August 12, 2004 at 11:52 >>>>CDT) >>>>Authority: Title 14 CFR section 91.141 >>>>FMI: http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr/jsp/save_pages/detail_4_8406.html >>>> >>>>For the WHOLE story, go to >>>> >>>> >http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=d4918892-9c90-4a8d-ae > > >>>1b-9f5e87f8c9eb >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> >>Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 >>http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/SyTolB/TM >>--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> >> >>Quickie Builders Association WEB site >>http://www.quickiebuilders.org >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ >> >><*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> Q-LIST-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >><*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> >> > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > > --------------030108090606030306090309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read about this on AOPA. Since the men were "middle eastern", I figure if it airs they will play it as a "racial profiling" story.

Michael D. Callahan wrote:
This was posted to our Quickie Builders group this afternoon. Let's forward
this to any FBOs, flying schools, airport managers and everybody else you
can think of. As the writer correctly states, since NBC was caught with
their pants down, we'll hear nothing about this on the evening news. If they
had gotten away with it, General Aviation would have been slammed again.
Mike C.

  
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: NBC employees try to get helicopter from St. Louis Downtown
    
Airport
  
& go to jail in the effort....


    
This news blip brought to us from Ron Buswell.

      
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Aero-News Alert: Non-Aviation Media Trying To Discredit GA
American Association of Airport Executives issues alert,
reports NBC trying to set up GA facilities and FBO's

Rebecca Morrison, Staff Vice President, Transportation Security
Policy Department at the American Association of Airport
Executives, has transmitted the following memo and requested widest
possible distribution:

The following is a
description of an incident that occurred today (11 Aug) at the
St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are
sharing this story with you as there are indications that it might
be repeated throughout the country. We would like to thank
Bob McDaniel, the Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for
sharing the details of the incident outlined below.

Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate
our security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and
asked about a charter flight. After discussion of price and
directions to the business, they arrived an hour later. When
the office agent asked how they were going to pay for the flight
they produced cash. When asked for ID, they produced
driver's licenses from two different states and they were
driving a car licensed in a third state.

Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them
into the hangar to see the aircraft while the office person called
the FBI and local police. The helicopter they were going to
fly was blocked in by other aircraft so the mechanic was able to
stall them by having to slowly shuffle the blocking planes.
Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks and odd-shaped luggage
out of their car. Soon the local police arrived and they were
hauled off to jail in handcuffs.

After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the
two men were employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get
a story of how easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist
attack. The men had stayed in a local hotel and purchased box
cutters, leather-man knives, and other potential weapons at the
local Wal-Mart using a credit card. The box cutters had been
hidden in the lining at the bottom of the back packs and the other
weapons were hidden throughout their baggage. They had
audiotaped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were going to
use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to get
information and directions to the location of the helicopter and
then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack.

I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a
story that will never be seen since they were caught. A very
"well-done" to my FBO and staff and the local FBI and
police response forces. We have since learned that we were
the first airport where this had been attempted and NBC planned to
attempt similar penetration stories around the country.
Please help me spread the word to other airports.
FMI: www.airportnet.org/security

For the WHOLE story, go to
        
http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=ff753694-4e36-4000-8b
  
50-29b7f1053b7f
      

GAMA Praises Security Vigilance Of GA Operator

It's nice to know the GA
biz is keeping an eye out for the bad guys... even when the bad
guys come from NBC News. GAMA has joined in the justifiable praise
over the vigilance of a small general aviation aircraft operator
who promptly identified and reported two suspicious individuals
attempting to rent a general aviation aircraft. After arresting,
interviewing and searching the individuals, law enforcement
personnel determined they were actually NBC reporters attempting to
generate a news story.

"The general aviation community has always said that our
nation's best defense against terrorism is a vigilant
public," said Ed Bolen, GAMA President and CEO.

The arrest of the news reporters follows the recent publication
of The 9/11 Commission Report which documented how the general
aviation community successfully identified and reported suspicious
persons even prior to 9/11.

"Although it is doubtful this story will make the evening
news programs, today's incident is further indication that
the general aviation community takes security seriously" said
Bolen.
FMI: www.GAMA.aero

For the WHOLE story, go to
        
http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=e05e6fc3-6828-41d7-ba
  
c0-eecc2529d0ac
      
Klyde Morris 08.13.04
Klyde Has A Few Things To Say About A Recent
"Cat-astrophe"
FMI: www.klydemorris.com

For the WHOLE story, go to
        
http://www.aero-news.net/news/featurestories.cfm?ContentBlockID=9280628d-05c
  
b-4757-ab12-786bc6adaf0b
      
NOTAM Number: FDC
4/8406
Location: SIOUX CITY, Iowa
Beginning Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at
12:00 CDT)
Ending Date: August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at 15:00
CDT)
Reason for NOTAM: Temporary flight restrictions for national
security
Type: VIP
Replaced NOTAM(s): N/A
FAA Contact(Pilots):
No Pilots May Operate An Aircraft in the Areas Covered by this
NOTAM Except as Described.

Affected Area(s)

Inner Circle
Airspace Definition:
Circle Center: 6 nautical miles from SIOUX CITY VORTAC(SUX)
on the 324 radial (Latitude: 4226'44"N, Longitude:
9623'40"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From and including the surface up to 18000
feet
Operating Restrictions and Requirements:
Effective Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004
at 12:00 CDT) - August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at
15:00 CDT)
Except as specified below and/or unless authorized by
ATC:
A. All aircraft operations within a 10 NMR area listed above
are prohibited except for:
1. Law enforcement and military aircraft, directly supporting
the United States Secret Service (USSS) and the office of the
president of the United States (POTUS), emergency medical flights,
regularly scheduled commercial passenger and cargo aircraft that
meet or exceed the TSAS domestic security inspection program
standards and are arriving into and/or departing from 14 CFR Part
139 airports.
2. For operations within the TFR all medical flight operation
companies shall coordinate with the USSS prior to this NOTAM going
into effect to avoid potential delays.


Outer Circle
Airspace Definition:
Circle Center: 6.8 nautical miles from SIOUX CITY VORTAC(SUX)
on the 324 radial (Latitude: 4226'44"N, Longitude:
9623'40"W)
Radius: 30 nautical miles
Altitude: From and including the surface up to 18000
feet
Operating Restrictions and Requirements:
Effective Date: August 14, 2004 at 17:00 UTC (August 14, 2004
at 12:00 CDT) - August 14, 2004 at 20:00 UTC (August 14, 2004 at
15:00 CDT)
B. Within the airspace between 10 NMR and 30 NMR listed
above:
1. All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR
shall be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete code
assigned by an Air Traffic Control (ATC) facility. Aircraft shall
be squawking the discrete code prior to departure and at all times
while in the TFR.
2. All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR must
remain in two-way radio communications with ATC.
3. All aircraft operating within the 10 to 30 NM radius TFR
and operating at altitudes of up to but not including FL180 are
limited to aircraft arriving or departing local airfields and ATC
may authorize transit operations. Aircraft may not
loiter.
4. Flight training, practice instrument approaches, aerobatic
flight, glider operations, parachute operations, ultralight, hang
gliding, balloon operations agriculture/crop dusting, animal
population control flight operations, banner tosing operations,
commercial cargo carrier operations that fail to meet or exceed the
TSAS domestic security inspection program standards are not
authorized.
5. All U.S. Secret Service cleared aircraft operators based
in the area should notify the US Secret Service prior to their
departure.
6. All medical flight operation companies shall coordinate
with the USSS prior to this NOTAM going into effect to avoid
potential delays when the NOTAM is in effect.
C. It is recommended that all aircraft operators check NOTAMS
frequently for possible required changes to this TFR prior to
operations within this region.

Other Information:
ARTCC: ZMP
Issue Date: August 12, 2004 at 16:52 UTC (August 12, 2004 at 11:52
CDT)
Authority: Title 14 CFR section 91.141
FMI: http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr/jsp/save_pages/detail_4_8406.html

For the WHOLE story, go to
        
http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav.cfm?ContentBlockID=d4918892-9c90-4a8d-ae
  
1b-9f5e87f8c9eb
      
        
      

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