Return-Path: Received: from ns5.rokland.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP-TLS id 355345 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Aug 2004 19:43:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386623bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.161.221] helo=localhost.localdomain) by cpanel.ev1servers.net with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BtEMt-0000tn-G0 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:43:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 17:43:21 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] battery question Message-Id: <20040806174321.15707c57.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.rokland.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Hi Kevin, If the battery was at 11 1/2 volts, that would indicate it was in a fairly discharged state. It would have been a good idea to put it on a charger before installing it. Alternators are ment more for maintaining charge rather than building up a discharged battery. A load test would be a good idea also. What is the model number of these batteries, and can how often canGary supply them? Bob White On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:45:02 -0700 "kevin lane" wrote: > -Gary dunfee is a mobile x-ray tech and eaa member. the batteries he > uses come in matched sets. when one goes "bad" (performance drops) > the whole batch gets replaced. Gary gives us these batteries. he > claims they are the highest quality made, exceeding the odyssey > batteries. they are a bit heavier because of the additional plates > inside. my hangar mate has at least three years and maybe 500hrs on > his. I recently put a fresh one in my plane. I flew it an hour and it > worked fine. I was amazed at how fast the prop turned over, > indicating how old the prior battery had gotten. the battery had been > sitting on the shelf a year maybe before I installed it. it showed > about 11 1/2 volts then. I flew to Camarillo last week. about 20 > miles from crater lake, smack in the middle of the cascade mountains, > I noticed my egt's shooting up 100 degrees. I pushed the mixture to > full rich, but that only slowed rate. I pulled some power and got > them to start back down. I realized my rose ignition had tripped. > also I had not shut off my strobe and wigwag lights. my volt meter > showed 8 volts. I figured I had lost my alternator. I shut down > everything. I had just been dropped by flight following because of > radar coverage. my wife was very calm! I was flying the t-craft > version of the rv, no electrical system. I even shut off my gps since > it had switched to its battery. Klamath falls was less than 30 > minutes. then I noticed my voltage was up to 10 volts. interesting. > I decided to shoot for Carson city and save my 8500' of altitude. a > bit later I saw 11 1/2 volts. thank god I kept the altitude. at one > point Ellen say "there's an airport below us". yeah, RNO, ceiling > 8400'. so much for my off and on gps technique. voltage was showing > 13 1/2 volts now. I tried turning things back on, and there seemed to > be no problems. we got gas at Carson city, lunch at minde, and flew > to Camarillo, no problems. I wasn't able to talk with anyone about > this and flew back, 6 hrs, with no problems, 13 1/2 volts the whole > time. so, is it possible the battery had a charge that wore off and > then went into some deep charge mode, overloading my little > nippondenso alternator? the most amps I ever saw was 20 while it was > trying to get back to the 13 volt mark. maybe leaving my lights on > was too much? has this problem fixed itself, or do I need to pull the > alternator and battery to have them tested? I used to pretty much > ignore the volt meter while flying. not anymore. Kevin Lane > Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net > web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 > (browse w/ internet explorer) -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon)